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How Much Do You Make?


A few weeks back I was at a company function and wound up walking out with an inebriated co-worker. He was trying to convince me to split a cab with him, but I declined, pointing to the fact that it was only 9:30 and the train station was only two blocks away. I was completely sober, him, not so much, so I understood why he wanted to cab it. But as I explained to him it wasn't that late and we’re in a recession so my unlimited MetroCard would serve me well.

“Come on, man, you got money,” he slurred. “I know you make more than me.”

“That may or may not be the case,” I retorted. “But I’m catching the train.”

“Whatever, I know you make more than me. Tell me how much you make.”

“Uhm, no.”

“I know for a fact you make more than me. I’ll tell you how much I make.”

“Nah, that’s okay. I believe you.”

“Come on, man, just split a cab. It’ll be like $15. You don’t have $15?”

“That’s not the point, it’s early and I’m sober, you’re not.”

“True,” he said before flagging down a passing cab. “Aiight, man. See you tomorrow.”

The above exchange made me realize just how sensitive people are about how much they make. When my co-worker inquired about my yearly income, I felt like he was asking for my first-born. It’s pretty much the same reaction no matter who asks: co-worker, friend, relative or a date.  

Although questions about income can be viewed as intrusive, they tend to come up during romantic dealings. Not to stereotype (well, not too much) but the question rarely comes from a man, rather a female “getting to know you.” While I can’t say that I can recall many women that were ballsy enough to straight up ask me, but standard questions about “what you do for a living” or “how much did your place cost” tend to hint at the same thing. But if any female I was just “getting know” asked me how much I made, my answer would be a straight-faced “none of your business.” Sorry, my yearly income is classified information that should be reserved for my future wife and extremely close confidantes. Basically it’s on a need to know basis. Besides that line of questioning would lead me to believe that said female may be a gold digger.

Now that’s not to say that there haven’t been times where I was in a long term relationship and a general income range was revealed to my partner. If that range were more than her, my revelation would usually come to bite me in the ass. "Pay for dinner, you make more than me.” Or the classic line, “You can afford it.” Similar to the scenario with my co-worker, though, a female has no idea what I can and can't afford. Just because I make X amount doesn't mean jack shit. As we all know most of your gross salary goes to taxes and what's left hardly ever reflects the prestige of what your pay grade would suggest. I mean, every time I look at my gross income and see what I should be bringing home before taxes I get pissed. And if I'm making X amount but still living check to check; what's the real the difference between what you make and what I make? I don't tell you how to spend your money so don't tell me how to spend mine.

So how do y’all feel about people asking about your income? Is there a difference between someone on a date asking or a friend/colleague? Do you think it’s rude to ask someone about their income when you barely know them? Who would you reveal your income to if they asked? Why do you think people are so sensitive about how much they make?

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  • Anonymous

    I think its ok with anyone except the "person your getting to know," co-workers and anyone that would use it against you or would say "Come on, I know you got it"

    I actually like to ask that question of people so that I know where they are at career wise and where I'm at in comparison, so that if someone that's comparable to me (in years, experience, age etc..) is making a lot more than I am then I know I got to 1) "Hustle Up" or 2) Find a new gig. To me its really important to know your surroundings. How can you be "successful" with out a gage for yourself. I choose not to be blind when my eyes work just fine.

  • http://nwso.net Naked With Socks On

    Isn't the purpose of dating someone to get to know them? What does their bank account have to do with who they are as a person? How does that better your understanding of who they are?

    If you've been together for a minute and are building towards a future, sure of course go ahead and talk money, but on a first date or first few dates? Nah, who are you to be in my personal space like that?

    And I don't have a problem speaking politics and religion on a date (that was an earlier commenter). Actually kinda good to speak on that because if you do ever spawn, the issue of how the kids will be raised religiously will be an issue.

    But unless you plan on splitting bills with me, don't see why you need to know about my duckets.

  • Ayanna

    I don't have a problem discussing salary with close friends- but on a date? I couldn't imagine that happening. I did date a guy who told me early on that he would only get serious with someone in his tax bracket. I thought that was an interesting comment b/c I work at a non-profit, and he was a VP at Goldman-Sachs. It let me know very quickly that he wouldn't take me seriously and just wanted something physical, so I ended that quickly.

    On the other hand, it can be tacky to discuss salaries with friends when it becomes a bragging issue. A friend of mine makes it a point to speak in a bragging voice about how much he makes. I usually just say "umm hmmm" and let him continue. I guess he forgot my income, b/c he asked again recently how much I get in my new job. It made me laugh b/c I was making more, but it made me irritated that he constantly brought up money in a tone that was supposed to make me feel bad about myself.

    I am rethinking whether I should discuss finances with even friends, b/c it really shouldn't have anything to do with our friendships.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/03692589362605192374 This Bug

    To me, the sensitivity of this topic is right up there with politics and/or religion- mainly because the nature of it delves deeply into one's personal choices, standards and beliefs.

    I never assume on anyone's pockets and I have no problem putting someone in check if they try to assume on mine.

    To turn the tables, I have had men as me thinly veiled questions like "So, where do you see yourself in five years?" WTF?! Is this dinner and movie or a job interview? Some have even gone as far to say, "I know what I have is mine." This is fine to deflect Gold Diggers, but a man should not assume that is every woman's M.O. just because he may be in a slightly higher tax bracket.

    Unless a relationship develops into one of trust and necessity, that information stays on a need-to-know basis.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/01092645607527251858 TGodslittlesister

    BS...ru serious. You will get down with a woman (which is far more "personal") but you hesitate and even feel offended that she asks how much u make? Though on the other hand I hate when men connect my worth with money (ie they can act a damn fool cause they got it).
    Furthermore, why is everyone so touchy about talking money, religion and politics. These are the things that effect our lives in the best and worst ways..they should be the things we talk the most about (sharpening our minds and giving us growth in maturity). Logic? Where?

  • Kai

    Naked -

    I agree with you 100%...no one knows what I make except HR and my parents! And quite frankly, it's no one's business. When people know your salary they automatically start calculating and rationalizing why you can or cannot afford the lifestyle you live. I think it's ridiculous, when co-workers mention to me that I spend money on lunch, clothes, or whatever it may be when they have no clue what I make. And I agree what you said about people making x amout living check to check. My dad always says, if you make $10M a year, there is enough "stuff" out there for you to spend $10M on, per year. Then there are people like me who could live off of $20K per year in NYC, because I have no debt and a rent stabilized apartment (i mean all i would have is a roof over my head, maybe no food lol, but the point still stands). So, I agree with you: as long as someone can afford their lifestyle, what's it to anyone else, what they make?

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/11584937724422738834 Eblu

    I have never asked anyone how much they made; male or female. The only reason I knew how much my ex made is because he didn't try to hide it. If you leave your W-2 and bank satements laying around, then it's hard not to know. The reason I don't ask is because I don't want men to think I'm a gold digga. Plus,I am able to take care of myself. It doesn't matter how much money he does or does not have. It's his money, not mine. When my ex and I went out, we took turns paying the bill. I don't see anything wrong with that. You would think a brotha would want someone they didn't have to take care of. That's another story...

    To answer your questions...I don't mind people asking me how much I make. My answer is always, 'not enough'. I do think that you should somewhat know the person before you ask such a personal question, unless you are about to hire them. I only reveal my income on job applications. I think people are sensitive because now days the person that sits next to you doing the same job could be making 5 grand more than you. Imagine how pissed you would be if you discovered that tidbit of info. It's taboo to discuss salary. I don't think that will change any time in the near future~

  • Rhonda Clock

    yea i never knew it was taboo to talk salaries until i got to my job. Before that i would have revelaed my salary pretty easily.

    Then i find Elbu's point where someone in your same office makes more or less money than you. If you make more you don't care to reveal it to sort of protect yourself.

    The only exception for me, is when a person is looking for a job and needs a range to tell a potential employer. That's helpful so they aren't short-changing themselves.

    In the end, i think its sort of tacky to discuss how much you make anyway. You either come off as braggart if you earn alot or self-pitying if you make less. Mind ta business! haha.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/01092645607527251858 TGodslittlesister

    True, True..I was talking in general and responding to the previous comment. My bad if I wasn't clear. Oh and on a first date i do agree but if u hit it all bets off.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/03692589362605192374 This Bug

    Perhaps that I should have specified that most people in general tend to shy away from discussing politics and religion, which I have no problem doing.

    But when it comes to getting to know someone, I hardly see how that is any of my business- any more than it's their business what money I'm banking. On dates, I don't hold auditions to see who can take care of me so I expect that boundary to be respected. Like a previous comment stated, if we are not splitting bills or buying a house, how is that relevant to getting to know each other?

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/10285204311403705771 Gigi

    I'm bringing in $37,500. I could care less who knows how much I make. People are too sensitive about sex and money.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/07797849664590160921 Jackpot aka H.D. aka Desckabaisses

    It's classified information as you said. I don't ask, don't ask me. If you wanna volunteer that information, that's on you. The funny thing is, a lot of my friends try to speculate on how much I make and it comes up in drunken convos. But whether I'm making $1 or $1 million, I'm not telling.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/00172716674227088713 zILLa

    RE: "The question rarely comes from a man, rather a female..."

    Here you go again with the gender generalizations... SMH. Guys have definitely asked me, but I know I've never asked a dude I was dating what kind of money he makes.

    Do you poll people before making these borderline sexist statements, or do you use your own experience? If it's the latter, maybe you should look at your taste in broads. No disrespect, but for someone so smart, you keep disappointing me. I'm just saying...

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/01544845092729238737 AMR

    As a woman, I have regretably revealed my salary to men...and in many cases it is part of the reason I feel the relationship did NOT work. Some men feel that they have to be the bread winner in the relationship and if they make less than me it is cause for a bruise on their ego...and it should NOT be.

    I feel we SHOULD talk more about salary because I know...working on wallstreet, some people get paid what they are worth, and a lot of people in this world don't. And if you don't know what you're worth then how do you what salary to fight for. With change in structure and layoffs and all, I am amaze to find that I make more than some of my male counterparts, but I think for many I make less. If we didn't have these conversations...trust me I wouldn't be making the money I make now...and I think I make good money.

    But again all this is relative...cuz $1 in Chicago can go a lot further than in NYC

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/06455919793487339872 Sunshyne

    I work at the airport and have random ppl asking me about my job and how much I make. That is so rude! Everyone seems to think I'm rich. As for those people, they can go online and see the range if what I make. I think they do that just cause I'm black and apparently that makes us cool enough that I dont mind answering a billion and one questions.