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Things I Wish My Father Taught Me

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Today is my father’s birthday. Usually this a day I mark on my calendar just so I can ignore it on purpose. It’s been my passive-aggressive way of giving my pops a big middle finger so when he calls a few days or weeks later to say I missed his birthday, I could reply, “Yeah, I know.” Well, that was then this is now.

By time most of you read this I will have called my father to wish him a happy born day. Whether or not he picks up is another story, as he’s infamous for not answering the phone even when he’s home. Nonetheless, I’ve decided to call this year because even though I confronted my father and got some answers, I realized that I wasn’t doing my part to mend the fractured relationship.

The last time I called my father was a few weeks ago when my half-sister reached out to inform me that our paternal grandmother had lost her leg and he wasn’t taking it well. I rang my pops at all his numbers, but as usual I got no answer or response. About a week and a half later he called to say that he’d been in the hospital for the past 10 days because of complications with his diabetes. I won’t bore you guys any further with drawn out details and just get to the point.

Although my father and I will probably never have a dad and son relationship (NOTE: just because you’re a father doesn’t make you a dad) I’m no longer closed off to the idea of us having some sort of cordial relationship. So this post isn’t about bashing him for not being there, it’s just me reflecting on how different things could have been if he was around for my formative years.

 

I wish my father taught me how to…

…FIGHT
I’ve had only three fights in my life and none of them have lasted over five minutes. The first was in 8th grade and the other two were a couple years ago with my best friend—including THIS drawn out story where I almost broke my own hand. There was no skill or precision involved in any of those scuffles. It was just hit or be hit free-for-all. Since I was a quiet kid that never hung out in the streets, I never learned how to shoot a fair one with my fists. I don’t know how to bob, weave and knock a nucka out. Sure I’m too old to be having fights, but I always wished I had that man in my life to teach me how to defend myself, my woman and my family with my knuckles. Don’t get it twisted, though, I ain’t no punk. My boxing technique may look bad but I’ll always go out swinging.

…TIE A TIE
At 32 years of age I don’t know how to tie a tie. Actually that’s a lie, there was a time when I did but without continuous practice I forgot. My uncle actually taught me when I was about 13. He was getting married and bought me my first grown-man suit, silk boxers (mad uncomfortable wedgies) and a tie. Although I had to wear a tie everyday as part of my eight years of catholic school, it was always a clip-on or one with a hook and loop in the back. So my uncle stepped up and showed me how to tie one on my own and I practiced all the time ’til I got it right, but working in the music/entertainment industry I rarely had reason to wear one. In fact, the last time I tied a tie myself was for my first job interview after college back in 1998. When my best friend got married a few years ago, I felt embarrassed that he had to tie my tie for me. Other times it’s often a female that ties my tie (How come more girls know how to tie ties than guys?) Maybe if my father was around I would have had a constant teacher.

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…RIDE A BIKE

Most times when you think of classic images of childhood thoughts of a father pushing his kid on a bike come to mind. I never had that experience. Prior to his death when I was 10, my grandfather filled that void by helping me graduate from tricycles to training wheels to two big wheels, but at the end I was forced to pedal alone. The last time I really rode a bike was when I was about 12 and I crashed into my little cousin Donna. My mother packed up my bike and I never road again. They say you never forget how to ride a bike, but what happens when you never really learned? I hopped on my boy’s bike a couple months ago and promptly crashed into a parked car. I swear the bike seat was too high and threw me off balance, or maybe I just needed that reassuring hand of guidance from my father to steady my ride.

…DANCE
Give me a few drinks and a steady rhythm and I’ll two-step the night away, but when it comes to the art of dance I’ve had no teacher. There was never that man in my life to show me how to slow dance. I have no idea how to move my feet or hold my wife’s hand and lead her on the dance floor on our wedding day. I’m sure it’s a pretty simple movement that I’ll pick up eventually, but it’d be a lot easier if my father had taught me.

…USE CHOPSTICKS
If you read my “Dating Tips For the Recession” post, you’ll know that I tend to eat at a lot of Asian restaurants, but I still haven’t mastered the standard eating utensil that is the chopstick. I’ve been out on numerous occasions and seen dates or friends pick up a pair and chow down, while I struggle to get a few kernels of rice to my mouth before buckling and asking for a fork. I'm not even sure if my father knows how to use chopsticks, but I’d like to assume he does and would have taught me how.

 

…SWIM
If you’ve been following this blog for a minute you’ll know that I’ve had a long bout with hydrophobia. For the past year and a half, though, I’ve been working on it by taking swimming lessons. I even went snorkeling and parasailing in Aruba last year. So I’ve definitely made some headway on learning how to swim, but perhaps if papa was in the picture he could have taught his little boy how to float instead of sink.

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…HOW TO SHAVE

Shaving is the essence of manhood. Every teenaged boy stares in the mirror for hours when his first whiskers break through the surface of his face. There’s no greater joy for a man-child to say that he’s shaving. I would always watch movies and TV shows with the men lathering up the shaving cream and taking the blade to their face to get that ultra close cut, but since I never had anyone to show me how to do it properly I relied on the barber or just resorted to using my clippers for a quick lineup when I had locks. There was one time I actually tried to use a razor and cut my face up so bad I never dared try it again. So I was always left wondering how different my homemade lineups would have been had my father been there to teach me.    

 

…BE A MAN
The hardest thing about not having my father in the picture is not having a constant model for what a man should be—good or bad. Luckily, I had my grandfather around for the first quarter of my life, but once he passed away I was left to figure out things on my own. Of course my mother did her best to instill in me proper manners and ambition, but there’ll always be things that only man can teach a boy—namely how to be a man. For what it’s worth, though, I think my mom did a decent job all things considered. Yeah, I might have a little extra baggage and may have not learned everything I could have had my father been around, but I think I turned out alright regardless.

For those that can relate, how different do you think like would have been had your father been in the picture? Are there things that you wish he could have been there to teach you? If so, what? Was there any other male figures that stepped up and guided you during your formative years? If not, how did you learn how to be a man or woman without your father? For those that had their father around, did I list things that you tend to take for granted?

Speak your piece…

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UPDATE
Courtesy of Wam Bam, thanx.


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  • Elle

    Hm, I guess not having a father in the picture is tougher for boys than it is for girls.

    At least I can't think of anything I would have needed my father to be there for. My brother taught me how to ride a bike but simply because my mom didn't have the patience. I'm sure other moms have taught countless kids how to do it, so I don't think it's a male task.

    I don't need to shave - well at least not my face - tie a tie or any other rather male "problem".

    Learning how to do things like dancing or swimming are usually done much better in a professional setting. That way mistakes don't get passed on and you learn it the right way.

    So yea, in my case, my dad not being around after age 11 was what saved me and I cannot think of any situation where I would have needed him or missed him.

    But again, it is different for girls - at least I think so. We grow up to be like our moms, whether we want it or not.

    To answer the question of how my life would have been had my father been around: hell on earth. I think I would have ended up being either suicidal or drug addicted. Either way I would have left home at age 14 - latest point in time.

  • Andrea

    NWSO I have been lurking on your blog for awhile and I truly enjoy everything you post, but this one struck me and I was compelled to comment.

    I am a 25 year old female my father killed himself when I was 9 years old, hung himself in our acctic while my mom and I banged on the door pleading for him to come down, before his suicide my father was a hardcore crack addict, he stole and sold food and furniture out of our house to support his habit, before the drugs my father was always in the streets, cheating on my mom, missed birthdays, holidays etc. Growing up I would imagine that my dad was alive and one day he would come back and get us, as I got older I pushed him to the back of my mind and tried to convince myself I didn't need him in my life. Let me tell you something A GIRL NEEDS HER FATHER. I'll be the first to admit I have daddy issues, I've had one serious boyfriend and I latched on him and seeked in him what I didn't get from my father that I eventually pushed him away. My father was never there to teach me how to ride a bike, drive a car, interrograte my dates, be the example of how a man should treat a woman, nothing. I applaud you for reaching out to your father despite the past, everyday I wish I could talk to my dad, years ago I wanted to ask him why did he beome an addict, why did he kill himself, why did he hurt my mom? Now I just want to say daddy I miss you.

    Sorry about the novel :)

  • Marley

    @NWSO your story is a reverse for me I grew up without my mother. Not because she chose not to be in my life but because she was killed in car accident when I as two. I've heard many stories about the woman she was and all throughout my life my father always told me I look and axt just like her from her smile to her mannerisms. I always wondered what it would have been like to have had her in my life. I wouldn't have freaked out when I first got my period or when puberty finally hit and gave me hips and brests. Or how to shave my legs. Someone to do my hair for my first dance and my makeup for prom. All those things I did on my own. My father I believe did an excellent job with what he had. He's in fact one of my bestfriends. He was the one who had the "birds and the bees" talk with me (very embaressing being a 13 year old more interested inbasketball than boys). Don't think of your life without your father being something you missed out on. I'm sure you are a man without your fathers help became a great man. Although celebrating our absent parent's birthdays are very different its good respect it, it will keep you from being bitter by calling him. His loss not yours. And even though I wish I had my mother in my life I would trade my life experiences without her for the world. Just make a promise to yourself...that when you have son you will teach him all things your faher didn't teach you.

    *peace and love*

    Marley

  • Just-a-black-girl!

    Its funny I have a both parents in my life and neither of them did the expected Mother-to daughter or Father-to-daugher things.

    My mother has never bought me a bra or never spoke to me about periods, sex, dating or anything like that. She was strict-ish and made sure I wasn't running the streets. Rather than teaching me she would threaten, so it was more of "if you do that I will kill you" type of thing. So this kept me out of trouble and in school. Because that was her method of child rearing she never really got involved in my development as a woman. I've always lived with my mother.

    My father was strict and loved me from a distance , not a physical but an emotional. He was never affectionate or loving. He supported me but was never supportive...major difference!! I saw my father at least once a month.

    Neither of them taught me how to ride a bike, lol!!

    I recently had a difficult conversation with dad, he asked me an awkward question and I gave him an honest answer. He took it well and I feel like in the long run it will help our relationship - it's definitely part of my personal growth. I commend you for taking that step in building a relationship with your pops.

  • Nesto Peguero

    I've had both of my parents involved in my life, so I look at the above post and relate it to my prior relationship what ifs. when I reflect it feels like it would have been special.

    The reality is that a relationship is just that, and doesn't have to posses the structure that you have imangined. Yes, some fathers make the effort to be what you have imagined but some don't even realize that their children need specific things from them.

    I think that the benefit of having two parents is more so an issue of learning from two adults that you trust, with the benefit of both genders being represented. I share the experience of having both parents involved in my upbrining and am missing a few things that are on the list as well. Just for the record fighting takes practice, even if your father taught you, you'd still have to get it in, to feel comfortable that is.

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  • ML

    @NWSO. This was a good article my dude. I enjoy reading your stuff. Keep up the good work. But as far as this article is concerend. Me & my Pops didn't get along for along while. One day i had asked God to help me with our realtionship. I told my Pop i didn't want us ending up like Floyd Mayweather Sr & Jr. Lolz! But it where people who stepped up in my life. My Uncle was 1 of them. Different dude's from Church.

  • http://nwso.net NWSO

    @Andrea

    Thanx for sharing your story. Unfortunately, your father had no choice in his being absentee, sadly a lot more do have a choice in the matter. We all carry different issues from parents. Look @Elle's story and how she wisher her father was out of the picture sooner for various reasons. We all have different journeys/experiences.

    Thanx again

  • sankore

    This post really hit me hard. The last time I saw my father I was 4yrs old. He didnt abandon my sister and I, he just decided he didnt want to come to the U.S. ,but my mother wanted to come home to the U.S. Though I have kept in contact with my dad through pictures and phone calls, its never the same. I was always a daddies little girl. But not having him around really caused me to have major daddy issues. I always thought that if he were here he would have taught me how to spot a playa from a mile away or maybe he would have took me on dates to show me an example of how a lady is to be treated. Right now I am working with him to get his visa so he can come and visit for the summer. I honestly think my choices would have been better if he was in my life. Like I said before this post really hit me hard sweetie. I cant wait to see my father again. I just want to be able to hug him and tell him face to face how much I love him. When he comes to visit I will keep you posted to let you know how things went. It takes a real MAN to be able to express how you felt in this post and I truly commend you for doing so.

    Peace

  • http://rewindandcomeagain.blogspot.com alysimone

    i'm a single mom of 2 tween boys and we have been struggling with daddy issues for some time. their father is in their life and his involvement has been slowly increasing over the past few years but it's not nearly enough i my opinion and i'm left to teach/do things i KNOW i'm not doig right or need a mans help with, but i gotta try:

    ...sports...i am NOT a sports fan and it didn't really occur to me to get the boys interested in them until my 11 year old nephew (a rabid football and basketball fan) visited. my boys were lost and couldn't take part in the convo..

    ...cars...again my nephew came by able to break down the make and model, pros/cons of all the cars on our block while my kids, like me, were just clueless

    ...sex...this has been an on-going conversation with the boys but it's really heating up now. their father constantly states he's going to teach them and answer all their questions. but since he only spends about 5hrs a week with them, he doesn't really have the opportunity. so i'm left to give all info, technical, emotional and otherwise on the subject. which i'm not mad about but a man's perspective would be helpful

    there are many male role models in their lives. my father and brother and 1 or 2 teachers in their school. otherwise they are surrounded by women. which is a good and bad thing i think.

    it makes me sad that they may grow up with issues or with missed experiences or angry at their dad, but you gotta work with what you got.

  • bellabellablue

    @NWSO

    Great article..thanks for sharing...after reading i had to call my dad and tell him I LOVE YOU.

  • Sweetness

    Reading this topic has me crying at my desk. I have so much built up rage toward my biological father. I just feel so abandoned by him, and I definitely have daddy issues as well. I really do feel like I would be in a serious relationship or married by now if I had a healthy relationship with my father.

  • YoungJay

    @NWSO

    What is it with "Sperm Donors" calling and asking why they didnt get a Happy Birthday wish? Mine did the same thing earlier this year.

    @ The Topic

    When I was younger I used to look at by friends and their relationships with their fathers and wish I could have something similar (coming to watch them play ball, taking them to movies., etc.). After a while It got depressing and I just starting adopting male role models from the neighborhood. I remember one summer there was a Father Son Basketball tournament and because my boy sucked at basketball he let me borrow his pops. For the first time in my life I was able to feel a small part of what the father/son relationship was supposed to be.

  • ladyaj

    Great article. I'm glad you are reaching out to your father despite the circumstances.
    Fortunately I grew up with my mom & dad under 1 roof. But being military, my dad was never really the affectionate type, but i knew that i was loved. He didn't hug & kiss on us & was rather strict. He didn't tell us what to do but rather what not to do or deal with the consequences. I always felt like the answer was NO whenever i wanted to ask to do or for something, so it got to where i just wouldn't ask. That put lots of strain on our relationship because it was like a break in communication. Talking with my siblings, I found out that they felt the same way. But now that I have kids of my own, he is like a totally different person as a grandfather but not so much. He is still a strict disciplinarian, but he does show more affection. I've never been hugged or kissed on so much as an adult by dad and he shows much love towards my kids. I respect him for that, but I feel like there is still some type of void there. I really feel like not getting that affection as a kid did something to me as an adult as far as showing others how I feel by hugs or kisses, but rather thru material things. It's something I strive to work on considering how I feel about my own children & significant other.

  • Kelly

    Thank you for sharing your story. It actually brought tears to my eyes .. because it makes me sick to my stomach to think in a few years my own son might be writing something just like this. I can't give him his father .. his father chooses not to be in his life, only sporadic visits, and then usually they don't end well. My husband is the next best thing he has to his father but I know it's not the same. My sons father sets him up for constant disappointment, makes promises that are never kept, etc. I've made the hard decision to keep him away from our son until my son is older, because it's too hard to watch my son get set up and then see him cry himself to sleep when his father didn't show up. Our family judge agreed with me, and didn't grant him visitation this time around. I only hope my son doesn't hate me for it.

    I have a strong hope that my son will grow up to be just fine, even though his father isn't in the picture, but behind that hope is still the knowledge that he's going to be damaged from it and I hope he can get past that. :(

  • Tee

    Your story def touched me this morning.

    I was six when my mother married my stepfather, the man who earned the title of being my DAD--even though my biological father lived less than 10 blocks away from me most of my life. Now that's just trifling. So NWSO, I feel your pain and I applaud your effort to reach out, even if the relationship is less than perfect.

    As a kid, it was difficult for me to understand why this man, and not my biological father, took me school shopping, took me skating, took me on roller coasters, cooked me dinner, painted my room and loved me like I was his flesh and blood. And me being a kid, did not make it easy for him to win my affection. I even rejected taking his last name.

    But he hung in there, like champs do, and we built a father-daughter relationship. (I was never daddy's girl, thou, that honor goes to my spoiled sister. LOL) Even after my parents divorced, he didn't divorce me. He was my dad and we had too much invested. So, there was no question of who would walk me down the aisle when I got married, even though many of my relatives thought I should call up my biological father and give him the honors.

    In my mind, THAT MAN did none of the hard work, paid for zero school clothes, paid zero college tuition, logged zero miles to visit me in NC, much less walking down the block -- so why did he deserve to reap the reward?

    I learned how to be a woman (and an active, loving parent) from my mother.

    From my father, I learned:
    1) how a woman should be treated
    2) what to accept from a man
    3) how to spend money wisely--and get a lil' crazy with it
    4) how to be adventurous
    5) how to laugh at myself and not take the whole thing so damn seriously
    6) how to eat something before declaring that I don't like it (and yes, frog legs do taste like chicken - love 'em with hot sauce)
    7) how to check out at a man's shoes, fingernails, haircut and timepiece 8) how to LISTEN to a man and HEAR what he is saying
    9)**** how to be a strong, individual, but STILL let a man be a man without compromising MY feelings and MY values

    Enough typing, I gotta call my dad and see if we can get some frog leg's the next time I'm in the ATL.

  • YoungJay

    @ Tee

    My Boys father actually taught me that I had to stay fresh because of # 7 on your list lol

  • Soulyn

    I am fortunate to have my dad as one of my bestfriends. It was hard growing up with him as a single parent. He wasn't the most affectionate person but the love was there. Dad did the best he could.

    My paternal grandparents raised me. And then my dad and his ex-girlfriend created a stable home for myself and her children, until that relationship ended.

    Growing up without my biological mother always left me feeling like I wasn't good enough. Mom sent me away when I was 3. There's a conversation which replays in my mind that I one day want to have with her. We have a relationship now but it's not mother and daughter. My mother was my grandmother(deceased) and step mom who sometimes I wish was my biological mom.

    I remember the first bike dad sent to Guyana so I could learn to ride. We have a lot of firsts. Which reminds me, I'm going to call him and reminisce.

    I longed for shopping sprees with mom, movies, or even preparing for prom. Oh, and of course when I hit puberty and began menstruating. I sometimes feel like half of me is a mystery. I'm very close with dad's family and am able to see why I am me. But what about mom? I really don't know her nor her family. Do I have any of her personality traits, etc? Mom could of talked to me about relationships, sex(dad and I had the talk), so many different things that a girl growing up should know.

    Thank you for today's post. Made me appreciate my dad even more and all the mothers in my life.

  • M. (please say the dot)

    NWSO,

    I feel you on this topic, but I have a dad. He is my dad, father, Pop Deuce, etc....we are close. My thing is a lot of stuff that I should know he just did, rather than teach. Tie a tie....he would tie it the first time and tell me to just loosen the neck and leave it tied. Check the oil, change a flat...what is this? He never talked about being a man (or sex) or defending myself either. He is pretty laidback and I the same way. I turned out pretty damn good. I mentor young men, the ladies are fond of me, An not a nann n**** has tried me either! lol Seriously, I wish he taught it at a young age, but I got it now!

    ...piece spoken!

  • Caribeza

    @Tee ... I absolutely feel you. Much props to all the kids who come froma single or foster type parenthood. It's hard out there.

    But I have to give much love to my parents. My dad and I fought all the way through high school because we were so alike, but through it all I knew he loved me and would always be there for me, he protected me from myself and others and showed me what to expect from the men in my life. Lol thats probably why I'm single, my standards are too high :) .

    But Tee's list was great, everything from 1-9, well except for 6... I was stubborn, both my Mom and my Dad taught me by words and by example. I am so grateful!

    Naked and all the other peeps, keep the faith, keep strong, and mad respect for breaking the cycle your father/mother started.

  • da ThRONe

    Hey I had my dad and he didnt teach me most of that stuff anyways if that helps?

    Im not going to post in here anymore i'll leave it to the people without fathers that need to vent!

    Ya'll be good!

  • http://thecocoaluvchronicles.blogspot.com Miss Cocoa Luv

    Let the waterworks begin. Getting in touch with my dad has been a lingering thought for quite some time. When you first got in touch with your dad, i proceeded to write a letter to my dad. It's more of a work in progress as am I.

    As usual thanks homie :)

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/mantic59 mantic59

    If its any help, I created a bunch of videos on how to shave properly (youtube channel at website link). I've gotten a bunch of comments from viewers that I was like a "substitute dad."

  • Shay

    I wish my father was around to provide an example of how a man is supposed to treat a woman. With his absence in my life, I wasn't able to see my mother interact with my father; therefore, I was oblivious as to how a woman is supposed to treat a man as well.

  • Lady Love

    NWSO, I have been meaning to write you about this, so thanks for this post.

    I have a four year old son, who despite having been married to his father, has only seen the man about 5 times.

    My son's father and I have been separated since my son was 2 months old for various reasons. Upon my decison to leave, this man has done absolutely nothing for my child. I took the whole situation as a life lesson and decided to leave the man alone (completely).

    About twice a year, he calls or texts saying that he wants to be around but when given the opportunity, he punks out or says he is no longer interested. So I have made the decision to ignore his calls and requests, since they have not been genuine.

    Recently, my son was asked a question about his father and said "I don't have a father". I was in shock. I make it a point to not confuse him by having strange men around but I didn't know that was how he viewed the situation.

    Now his father has come back around and due to some life altering experiences (near death), he has decided that he wants to get to know my son. I honestly, am unsure if I want to open this door again.

    Reading this post made it plain about the things guys lack when their fathers are absent. But as a young woman whose father came around when he felt like it (not much), I believe dealing with the absentee issues are a lot easier than knowing the parent and having them ignore you and not really be there.

    What do you think? Despite, the negative history and failed attempts, do I give this man the opportunity to do the right thing? Do I take the risk of having to pick up the pieces when he decides this is not for him? And most importantly, is having a dad around (even though he is not so great) better than not having one at all?

    Obviously, I am not giving all the details. But any thoughts would be appreciated.

  • keke

    Gosh this post is so intense and I say that because it shows vulnerability. It is so hard to be open and vulnerable, that is something that I stuggle with.

    I can relate to this post. My situation is a little different. I knew who my father was and he actually lived with us, he was just so remiss. he was so caught up in his own addictions and his problems. My mother was the head of the household and took care of everything. She was a wonderful woman, my rock, my hero...me and my sisters lost her in 1997 to breast cancer. After she passed away, I just assumed that he would step up and be the man and the father he never was. He was the exact opposite, and he was and still is a huge disappointment. I remember begging him to stay home and be a good dad, but he went off and re-married and took care of another woman her children.

    I wish my father showed me was an example of a good man. I wish he would have shown me how a good husband treats his wife, how a good father treats his children. I wish he was an example of a responsible man, someone that the men in my life would have to answer to. Someone who would have protected me when I needed him the most. He was the complete opposite.

    Now he feels guilty about his actions of the past, he says that he has bought a one-way ticket to hell. It hurts me to hear him say that. I feel so conflicted when it comes to him. There is no hope of a father-daughter relationship, but I guess i can attempt to try and discuss how his decisions had an impact on me as an adult.

    I became very guarded with men, and I would be difficult as hell, a pain in the butt to a few past male friends. I know part of the reason I was that way was because I was afraid that a man would not take care of my heart. I think I lost out on at least 1 really good relationship. Its not completely my dad's fault. But he did have a role to play in my interaction with men in the past.

  • mine jaz

    not having one or both parents makes u appreciate the family or friends that step in and take there place! i dint really have a conventional mother because due to an accident wen i was a baby she was mentally retarded... the movie 'i am sam ' does a great job of portraying those struggles for both the parent and the child .. and the relationship between my father has detiriorated [sp?] to the point i feel he hasnt been my dad for over a decade now tho he took care of me .... i guess its because i belive children , kids are gifts not burdens and they shouldnt be treated as such.... and thats the feeling kids often get wen abandoned physically emotinally or both by a parent... like there a burden... anyways, tho i didn t have a set father or mother my family stepped in and filled in the blanks as much as possible and tho im still a lil screwed in the head i thank them so much for wat they did... @nwso its good that u reckonize ur mom for doing what she could!

  • Mimi in the OC

    Yay for the post. I'm going to give you my little life story, so if you're in a rush just skip it...I grew up with both of my parents, but I have a great deal of daddy issues.

    My parents have been married and living together for 26 years now. When I was 15 yrs old, my mom found out my dad had had a mistress for 10 years, who was 15 yrs younger than her, with whom he had a baby boy carrying his last name...I'll let you imagine what this "Mad Black Woman" did. At the time we were living in Cameroon.
    My father was transferred to France when I was 16, so the entire family moved, it was the opportunity for a new beginning. But when I turned 18, my mom received a bill from the Maternity Clinic revealing the expenses due for my dad's new baby boy with some other mistress he had been seen for 2 years in France...
    I will let you imagine how living at my house brought so much stress on me and my siblings, until I moved out and came to the US 2.5 years ago.

    Throughout the years, I never really had a relationship with my dad because he was just never at home, I didn't feel like I needed him though because my mom was everything to us. As of now, I have a great relationship with my mom, she is my best friend. With my dad, we communicate through my mom. On the other hand, my dad has always mentored me in my education and my professional life and has always supported me financially to this day, he still helps me pay my tuition fees in Graduate School.
    I am extremely conflicted with this "good father" who is an awful husband and doesn't allow/tolerate true communication and expression of emotions/feelings related to this subject. I was indirectly and subtly warned that if I expressed my opinions I could see my daddy's financial support jeopardized...and unfortunately I can't afford to be mad, neither can my brothers.

    My mom is still at home, because among other reasons I have a 9 year old sister who loves her daddy, and when we moved to France, she decided to give up on her soaring career for her family. Everyday, she finds out and tells me about more outrageous/disgusting/sordid details of my father's life. (We lived in Australia for 3 years and during that time, he flew out his mistress with the baby and they were living in a Sheraton hotel for about a month...bought them the same jewelry...and those are soft details).

    Although I am my mom's best friend, sometimes there are things I wish I didn't know. I guess it's just easier not to communicate with my dad because I am not good at pretending. Why they haven't divorced/separated, there is my little sister, there are financial reasons and there are reasons beyond my understanding I believe. At times, I think if my dad died, I would probably wish I expressed my feelings good and bad to him, but it's impossible, I feel paralyzed.

    As a consequence, I have never had a relationship longer than a year, I am immensely afraid of marriage, commitment, although I do want stability, kids. I just feel immensely scared and can't help but feel that marriage will irrevocably hurt me.

    Sorry, I know it's long, but I guess I had to let it out.

  • Ms P

    My biological father died in my early 20s. He was mentally ill so we never had any type of relationship. When I was 4 my mother married & I was legally adopted by her husband. Now from 4-11 I was actually the only one of my friends with a father. He taught me to ride my bike, & we watched football/basketball & rode rollercoasters w/me. I think he was a pretty good dad & I appreciate that. However, for the next 2 yrs he left his job as a VP of a bank & just pretty much did nothing. When my mother finally divorced him, I asked her what took so long? I have always been extremly close to my mother. We are both Cancers so we truly have a bond. After that I just truly never missed my father. I saw hm 2x after that. I always had a great uncle although he also died when I was in my 20s. The only thing I wish is that I had a close father who lived near to FIX stuff for me!! :) I have friends whose fathers are handymen & they always fix their cars, stuff in their homes,etc. That's what I wish. I wish i had a dad that taught me how to hang up blinds, fix a toilet,etc.LOL!!

    But what I REALLY wish is not for me but for my daughter. I wish her father would take a more active role in her life. If I don't tell him to call her, or get her, he doesn't. She plays sports & he has only seen her play 1 time. He has never been to her Honors ceremonies or anything of importance.Now she doesn't even tell him any of her achievements. She recently placed in a state academic competition. He found out only becuase he sent me a text & I told him we were at the competition. She recently got picked for a great summer program. Again she refuses to share this with him. I wish that even if it were only for a few years that she had the father figure I had if only for a little while. That is what I wish for. I know you asked what we wished we had learned, but I changed it into my "wish" list. :)

  • Lisa Anne Santiago

    My dad has been married to my mom for 44 years I admire his ability to perservere. Thanks to my dad I really can't buy into that "all men are...." . As an adult I can objectively say, he is a man, warts and all, imperfect yet super, like the Xmen. It is him whom I credit with my ability to get back up after I have been knocked down. Oddly enough what motivated me to write, I don't have a real relationship with my mom. There are lots of issues that I wrestle with because of my lack of closeness to her. The second issue that resonates, is the vignettes where you describe who in the village that helped influence the man that you have become. So dad or no dad, we are the sum total of our experiences, and you still turned out ok =)

  • paulettebajangal

    You can't even assume if he was there...he would've taught you those things.Some men are around and still not around...they live in the house and could be strangers.My daughter's dad was like that for the 1st few years.M daughter treated him like a visitor she played with every now and then.now we live apart we have a better relationship but i'm still her rock.She knows that I'm there no matter what.

    I don't have a great relationship with my mother or father.And I will not be calling either of them on their birthdays or mother's/father's day.Unfortunately giving birth don't make you a parent.some folk are good at it and some just aren't.

    And I can honestly say...the woman I am today is a happier and more honest person than either of my parents could've taught me to be.cause they are still in denial about their own lives. But I can thank them for teaching who NOT to be.For that I am thankful.

    Does your dad read your blogs??Maybe you should mention them and point him to all your achievements as a man.

    Our parents mourn their own shortcomings...just like we do.But the difference is...we choose to take a better path and they continue on theirs.

  • http://nwso.net NWSO

    @alysimone

    Yeah, I'm a bit clueless about cars and certain sports too :(

    @ M. (please say the dot)

    I used to do that too, but leaving the knot in forever ends up ruining the tie, as it winds up with a permanent crease/wrinkle that's a pain to get out if at all.

    @mantic59

    Thanx for the link, i'll check it out...

    @Mimi in the OC

    Why would you say skip it? I read all the comments in full, least I can do. At any rate, thanx for sharing and feel free to vent any time...

  • http://nwso.net NWSO

    @ Lady Love

    Did you talk to your son after he made that statement? I know he's 4, but he should have some idea from you that he does have a father—good or bad. Just my opinion.

    There's no clear cut answer on whether you should or shouldn't let your son's father in the picture. On one side, you're trying to shield your son from more hurt and disappointment. On the other, if your son doesn't comprehend what's going on he could end up resenting you. For me, my mother had her opinion of my father which she shared at times (right or wrong) but I actually made my own decisions. When I was on his side of the country back in 99 and after not seeing me in 10 years, he sent me to eat alone i decided then to cut him off. My decision based on personal experience. My brother has never met our father, I've told him my experiences but always tell him it's up to him to have that relationship or to make his own decisions regarding pops. I show no bias—I think.

    So it's a balancing act. Don't allow your son to be hurt, but at same time there has to be an openness on your part to allow some sort of communication—as long as it's not detrimental or straight BS.

    As for your last question, an early commenter said that she would much rather not have her abusive father in the house than there wreaking havoc on her life. So yeah if the person is a total monster I'd assume you're better off without that negative influence...

    good luck

  • wam bam


    I hope this helps.
    It did a lot for me.

  • http://people-places-things.blogspot.com/ Bridgette

    I'm glad you called your father for his bday and that you're still working on forgiving him. Forgiveness is such a liberating act once we decide to do it but it sho nuff ain't easy. Kudos to you!

    My father passed away in October of 1990 and not a day goes by that I don't think about him.
    While it would be nothing short of ridiculous for me to try typing all the things my father taught me in this comment, I will attempt to list the things that immediately come to mind. Here goes...

    My father taught me:

    - What love feels like (both in his relationship with my mom and his relationship with my brother and me).

    - How to cook the bomb diggity hashbrowns

    - How to iron clothes (or tablecloths, curtains, etc.)

    - That is is possible for a Black man to be intelligent, well-read and cultured but also thug it out if need be (my dad would defend his loved ones by any means necessary). It is because of him that I KNOW the hybrid of book smarts and street smarts does exists.

    - There are three sides to every story: your side, my side and the truth. (This was one of his fave sayings.)

    - Not to put all my money in one place. He started telling me this as an itty bitty girl before giving me money for class trips in case I lost it but now I apply that rule to 401k contributions and other investing.

  • Longing for my father

    This is a great post.
    I'm 33 years old and was raised by my mother and her family. I never met my father nor do I know who he is or his name. Noone in my family has ever shared anything with me about him nor am I ready to inquire. One fact was shared and that was my mother told my sperm donor (after finding out she was pregnant with me) to never come to the house again...and I assume he took that literally.
    In any event, I never felt I missed anything in life without a father until the last few years. I long to be daddy's little girl. I long for someone to teach me how to interact with men. I long to hear words of admiration from a father. A father is significantly responsible for how a woman feels about herself. He feeds into her self-esteem by the compliments and praise he gives her so when a "buster" comes along and says those same things..she's not easily fooled. I long to be complete in relationships and not seek father attributes in my boyfriends. The lack of relationship with my father has caused my dysfunctional relationships with men. I find I cling to men (even those who don't deserve me or mistreat me) because of fear of abandonment. I feel inadequate. I feel unworthy of love due to the abandonment by my father. I wonder daily - How can someone just walk away from their child?? Does he ever think about me?? What kind of man would do that? I wonder if I have siblings or if I look like him. i wonder who will walk me down the aisle when I get married? I long for a father to screen the men I date ?
    My mother and I no longer have a great relationship because subconsciously I think I resent her for making that decision (telling my father to stay away) for me. Men can suck at being boyfriends or husbands but who knows..he could have been a great father to me.
    So yes, Girls need their father just as much as boys.
    I recently accepted that fact that I have some buried feelings and issues and need to get them out. I started therapyin hopes that I understand all that i'm experiencing (as a result of no father) and hope that I can learn to have better relationships with men and my friends.

  • Neska

    Aww man you about to make me cry! After readin the first 15 posts I just went to hug my dad and tell him "I love you", for me it is something i treasure doing ( got him waitin for the computer lol).
    NWSO a number of things on your list my dad taught me to do: ride a bike, tie a tie, swing a good cuff and dance. Really and truly its not until you hear about a situation where someone has to do without are you grateful that you have. My brother in law gave a testimony in church a while back where a cousin of ours preached and his father told him " Son I'm proud of you" and that really hit home for him cause his father was never there to do that for him. It's actually prompted him to be a great father to my niece and nephews.
    I think sometime my dad may feel a way because of certain situations with my older siblings, so to keep him smilin i got him a book for his bday "100 reasons girls need their father", we can neva out grow em. And yeah he did show me wat a man should and shouldn't do
    Lastly NWSO for a formal waltz you start on your right foot move forward hold the count, then 2 side steps in place, i hear my dads voice in my head every time, onnnnnnne, one, two, onnnnnnnne, one two.
    hope it helps

  • Mami

    I am saying this from a woman point of view: My father have always been there financially. We never had a great personal relationship. Now in his older age he wants to get close. So I am working on that with guidance from God. I wish my father would have show me how a man suppose to treat you, then I wouldn't end up in so many destructive relationship. As a young girl living with my grandparents saw real realtionship. Both grandparent died when I was young, so I was left alone to figure out the whole boy thing. My strong mother was there but this was a female point of view. I needed this man call Daddy to show me some steps. I wish my father could have taken me to my first father and daughter dance. I wish I could have felt comfortable talking with him on teenage things. Even though our communication haven't been great, I am going to do better with it now. I will have a good one on one talk to make this man aware of his action toward fatherhood effect my life.

  • blkchk

    deep shit. i am female. had both my parental figures in the home. this made me think of guys i know who did not have their fathers. The absence of the father and the ill feelings they have about it never really goes away. Even if you feel like you're over it. Or it does not affect you... subconsciously it does. In so many areas of their life. wow ~ you'd think the fathers who left would know the void it leaves because maybe their fathers left them too. you'd think that at some point a "father" would want to break the cycle... guess it's easier said than done especially if you NEVER had a real role model... it takes a STRONG man to fight the past and create a better brighter future.

  • Carla

    I have to say this post made me sad. I have both of my parents and they are still married and together. I am 32. Growing up we (my five sisters and I) went to my father for stuff like boys and things of that nature.

    My mother was not and still is not very affectionate or even easy to talk to. Time has healed alot of wounds left by the hostile relationship she and I shared. I made the decision one day to forgive her and I have seen her in a different light ever sense then.

    My sisters and I have a saying when we get together and one of us is being hard on our kid.. We always tell each other to "Break the cycle" Hard in as unreasonable, yelling cussing.

  • Righteous Mama

    Peace NWSO. I always enjoy when you write about your father. I too feel like I should do my part to mend the relationship with my father. I just don't know how. I really don't have anything to say positive or negative. I feel like the man I once knew is just gone and I've accepted that.

    He's actually not a bad guy. But I feel like he abandoned my sisters and I. No, he did. Straight up. After my parents divorced he re-married and just kind of ran off with this white woman and her kids and forgot about us. It hurts more than I'll ever admit to him. I choose not to think about it. I can count on one hand how many times I've seen him in the last ten years. I tried to spend a weekend with him and his wife at their beach house but it was awkward. The relationship just feels dead and empty.

    Fathers are so incredibly important. Lately, I've been feeling like I need in a guardian (man) in my life and I know that man should be my father. I try so hard to hide my daddy issues. I do a good job for the most part. But that's only because I haven't been in a serious relationship in a while. What I saw/see in my father is the reason I don't ask for much in relationships and the reason I don't believe in marriage. I'm always ready to shrug my shoulders to disappoints I practically expect. But really fear abandonment, more accurately I anticipate it. Sad.
    I don't know how to let a man take care of me. He would have to make me sit down some where and just say I got this. I look at men like that and the women with those men in amazement (and with envy).

    My father was very kind but a slacker. Not very hard working at all. I never saw him take care of my mother. It was always her bustin' her ass.

    I wish my father would have shown me what a real man of the house looks like. I wish my mother AND father taught me through example how to communicate better with those I love.

    @ Shay
    I feel you 100%

  • http://melookingout.blogspot.com Mo

    I feel you.

    Some of the issues are different for females -- theres no need for me to shave or wear silk boxers -- but things like riding a bike or being an example of a good man are things that I missed growing up. Of course my mom did her best to be both parents but quite honestly, that can never work.

    My father & I have a strained relationship as well and though I try at times to mend it...sometimes I just like the attempts fall to the wayside.

    Good for you trying to at least be cordial.

  • Faris

    As I read the article about having a Father, as a woman there are some things I can understand, having been married to a man for 12 yrs that never knew his Father. As an adult man, not having a positive male role model around affected him in a very bad way, he was mentally, physically and verbally abusive to I and our children, but as I began to understand this vicious cycle of Fatherless Males, my ex was reacting to life in the way he was raised, but still he has not stopped to think what may have been the cause of his abusive ways and behavior, he has 2 boys and 1 daughter and left them and does not care about them nor does he know how to display and give love to them, cuz even though he is 34 yrs old, he is still letting himself be trapped in the mind of a lil boy being angry that grew up w/out a father. This is an on-going problem in America today and its creating a vicious cycle of males growing up angry & resentful.

  • derek allen

    Things my father was able to teach me in just a couple of years, see I missed my father for over 40 years until we hooked up late in his life.

    Just because they are family, doesnt make them friends, choose your friends wisely. Greed is NOT good. Love is more important than money but you need money to live on and love to live with. Have honor, respect and integrity in all that you do as it will be a benefit forever.

    The concept of being acquiescent to authority, both natural and by law is good to understand. Being a part of their lives, we are able to imbue our children with our essence of being; helping them face the world with a depth and breadth of love and understanding that will not only give them strength on a daily basis, but will be a pillar they'll fall back on, time and again.

    One more thing, it's nice to have a father that tells you that you have pretty hair, speak well, look nice, or is smart, play games well, smell good, or even to let you know when you're doing things wrong. Doesnt seem like much but trust me, it is a lot, coming from ya pops.

    A father helps teach and inspire their children to achieve, also helps them develop a good sense of self-esteem and identity. A father is someone in a child's life that they know will always be in their corner.

    I wish Pops had been around to teach me about GIRLS and SEX. Personal responsibility and always giving everything you do your best effort, learning at a young age would have benefited me as well.

  • Barbara Abston

    This is a good site with good information, but can you recommend a program that I can put my 19 going 20 yr old son who has not had a male figure in his life since he was a young child, teaching him how to shave, tie a tie, dance, keeping his body clean and oder free, and just being a man. Is there such a program in Atlanta GA?

  • http://nwso.net NWSO

    @Barbara

    Thanx for reaching out, unfortunately, I don't personally have any information on any programs in Atlanta. I'd suggest doing some Google searches for Big Brother programs and similar programs in your area. Aside from that, if there are any strong male role models that you know, family, friends, co-workers, neighbors, coaches, etc that could spend time with your son together or alone that may help. 20 is beyond age for bike riding type stuff, but getting a little knowledge from another man that's been there, done that could help if his father is not in the picture.

    Good luck

  • a.l.i

    this article has made me think deeper then i have done yet. im still going through the teenage stage and over the last 4 years i feel iv'e grown an incredible amount. my father has never been a proper role model for me, even though i followed it blindly believing he was a great man in younger years. the truth, what i didnt want to believe over the last couple of years, is that he is a good-for-nothing, toe-rag, who has caused nothing but trouble for my family all my life.

    at times the situation looks bleak since subjects like finance can cause distress upon people.
    my parents are divorced, and now my mother is a single mum raising two children, working and studying at the same time. she is, and has been my rock .. from since i can remember.

    don't get me wrong as im not trying to bore anyone with this, but the truth is is that i envy those who have both parents pampering them and have no worries at all, save dating, or exams, or small things like spots.

    i am glad this page is here because i believe that all these comments do tend to help other people tackle issues like this so they dont have such a hard time dealing with problems.

    i also would like to finish by saying that although i wish i had a good father in my life, im sure i could have turned into a different person, one who didnt appreciate issues like this properly, and that although i had to learn things the hard way (of which im sure will continue) im proud to hear of achievments i have accomplished either with my mother's help or by myself,and that she is able to call me her 'rock'.

  • taylormade

    I was never mad at my dad for leaving. growing up, none of my friends had fathers, so it didnt really bother me much. It wasnt until years after he passed, that I actually wanted to see him, and that was in my adult years. I admit, at first I was a bit curious, about why my dad didnt live with us, my mom never talked bad about him, as matter of fact she didnt talk about him much at all, but I did believe those late night fights and police, and him being drunk as hell had something to with it. Still I wasnt mad at him, I just didnt understand. It wasnt until I got older and had a wife and kids of my own, that I fully understood, why he wasnt there. Sometimes life and relationships, dont fall the way you plan them, and unfortunately the kids get caught in the middle, which leaves us writing stories like these. As kids you dont know the situation, so you cant fully blame your fathers, maybe it was something your mom did, maybe, she wouldnt let him see you. Its true, there are some deadbeats out there that just left you hanging, but youre old enough now to get the whole story. dont hold grudges against your dad, if he's still living, try and form a relationship with him, because I would give anything for my dad to be alive, he dont have to do a damn thing for me, I just want to see him once, in passing, a glimpse whatever

  • Anon

    Welcome to the club, Asshole!

    You bitch and moan about how daddy wasn't there for you, fool, you're lucky you even had a father. Count your blessings, dick. Whether he was there or not, at least you can say you knew who daddy was. Or that papi was ALIVE for that matter. Many children don't even ever meet their father. Some children are lied to for fifteen years when come thanksgiving day they find out that the man they've known as dad all their life is not and yours is dead.

    "daddy never taught me"
    Boofuckinghoo. Cry me a river.

  • Anon

    Your twenty year old doesn't know how to be fucking oder-free??! Atlanta?? Lmfao! That's priceless!!

  • http://nwso.net/ NWSO

    @Anon

    Sorry to hear about your real father's death and being lied too, but what's with all the anger directed towards me? We all have our own crosses to bare and daddy issues. I hold no ill will towards you for sharing yours, I would hope you would have none against me for sharing mine. Yes, our experiences may be different and from one side of the screen it may seem one person is "luckier" than another, but there are also people that had fathers in their life that were abusive and they might say they were UNLUCKY to have one. It's all about perspective. I understand though, you need a punching bag and a space to vent. Hope the forum was able to give you some stress release.

    Good luck on your journey. But before I sign off, although you were lied to and your father has passed, it sounds as if you did have someone you considered to be your father in your life and sometimes the physical presence is greater than the blood lineage. Just something to think about