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Does Not Having White Friends Make Me a Racist?

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Earlier this week my boy Mark hit me up with a blog idea (I get a lot of those, but one at a time, people, one at a time). He wanted me to conduct a “social experiment” by attempting to date a White girl(s) for six months straight. I promptly shrugged it off and suggested Mark be the guinea pig since it was his idea, tell me about it and then I could post weekly progress reports on his dating adventures.

“We could call it, ‘Interview With a White Girl Slayer,’” I joked.

His response: “I mean, it’s better for you ’cause you never messed with a White girl at all.”

“Why should I ruin my streak,” I laughed.

“Because you need more White people in your life.”

“Huh, what do you mean?”

“Think about it. Do you have any White friends?”

I paused for a moment to ponder the question presented to me. “There’s my man, G, who I used to work with. We been cool for years and used to hang out all the time, but I don’t really see him that much anymore.”

“That don’t count,” Mark informed me. “I mean like White friends that you can just call up and be like, ‘Yo, what up homie?’”

Longer pause. “Hmmm, now that I think about it, not really.”

“See, you gotta think to yourself, ‘Am I racist?’”

“What?! Nah, I don’t think that makes me a racist, but I will admit that I’m not always comfortable in social settings with certain White folks.”

“See…”

“You know, the suit-and-tie, corporate types,” I continued. “But I think that has more to do with cultural differences than actual race. At times, I feel like whenever I’m in that kind of environment I’m representing for my entire race—especially when I had my locks. I just don’t feel like I can be myself. So to be completely honest, and not to sound racist, sometimes I just feel out of place around certain White folks.”

“Yeah, it’s funny ’cause I don't think you even come into contact with many White folks—like ever, for maybe over 10 years.”

That’s when it hit me. Maybe Mark was right. I’ve always felt blessed to work in an industry where I could document my culture and work with people in my community, but is there a downside to that? Have the past 11 years left me ill equipped to deal with folks outside my racial circle? It’s not like I have no interaction with people of other races at all. There are mad non-Black folk I’ve worked with, been cool with and had meaningful conversations with over lunch or whatever, but outside of the work environment I really don’t have much real interpersonal interaction with other races. Even still, I still have White friends that I work with.

“To me, those sound like acquaintances not ‘friends,’” Mark continued. “Like any birthday event I ever went to for you never had a White face.”

“That’s not true, my man Peter from work came through to the last one, and my boy Rahmel brought his wife who’s White.”

“Like I said, no real friends. You’re racist.”

I was stumped. Was Mark right? Was the over abundance of melanin in my life a sign of latent racism? Nah, it couldn’t be. Me and my man Tom used to have lunch all the time when we worked together, but come to think of it, we never did hang out anywhere outside of work-related events. No, wait, my homegirl Amy was my “office girlfriend” and we talked about everything, but I haven’t spoken to her in over a year. Okay, I got one, Greg from my last job, he and I always hung out at company functions, he came to my housewarming and we even had dinner together one time. Matter of fact, I was just talking to him on IM the other day and I was the one that initiated the conversation. There, you see, I have a White friend. One measly friend that just so happens to be White. SMH! Pathetic. Maybe I am racist.

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For the record, I’m being facetious (I hope) about this but I do feel there’s a cultural divide going on here. The fact that I admittedly feel “awkward” around certain groups of people or feel that I have to talk/act a certain way to feel accepted reflects a bigger problem—both personally and societal. It’s safe to say that in order for a person of color to be “successful” in this country, he/she has to deal with a non-Black person at some point on that journey (i.e. banker, appraiser, lawyer, etc.). Conversely, persons of color don’t really have much bearing on the success ratio for most Caucasians. That’s not to say the average White person never ever comes in contact with someone of color (in major cities at least), but those interactions generally have no impact on that individual’s ability to be “successful.” (Please note: I’m not saying this is a cut and dry fact, just an argument/point I’ve heard raised by others before and can see some validity in this ideology).

I’ve always said that I don’t accept racism, I just expect it. Let’s be real, before a person opens his or her mouth to speak he or she is being judged by their appearance, skin color, hairstyle, body type, height, weight, whatever. People can deny it all they want, but it’s just human nature to make assumptions. Sometimes that perception is based off of personal experience but most times it’s molded by the media. So if you’ve never seen or interacted with a Black, Indian, Asian, fat, ugly, or tall person before, you’re going to make some sort of judgment when you meet one based on what you’ve heard or seen.

Here’s an example: Back in my senior year of high school I took driver’s ed. One day me and my man Eddie are in the backseat of the car waiting for our other classmate to come from the bathroom to take her turn behind the wheel. Eddie and I are talking about the prom and I make a comment about hoping they don’t play too much reggae music. Our instructor, a nice man of Italian descent, has been sitting quietly in the front seat the whole time. Upon hearing my statement he turns around and interjects, “But aren’t you Jamaica?”

“Uh, no,” I responded with a deadpan face.

“Oh, I thought you said you were.”

“Uh, no.”

Awkward silence.

Nothing more was said besides, “Oh, my bad,” before the instructor turned back around, but the reason why he made that assumption was obvious—I had dreadlocks at the time and all Jamaicans have dreadlocks, right? So by default I must be Jamaican, right? Wrong! Even if I were Jamaican (I’m of Caribbean descent by the way but that’s besides the point) that still wouldn’t mean that I’d automatically be a fan of reggae music. Why not? Because not all Jamaicans listen to reggae just like all Italians aren’t in the mafia. It’s just silly stereotypes that some people pass down to the next generation. Looking back on it with wiser eyes, I believe my instructor just made that out of pocket comment based on the image he had of a certain sector of people that I apparently fit the bill for. What was a momentarily embarrassing moment for him, was a reminder for me of how the world views a young Black man with locks.

Ever since then I’ve always assumed that I’m being judged by people outside my culture. That how I choose to dress, speak and wear my hair makes me a target for who they think I am. Things like college graduate, homeowner, journalist, brother and son won’t come to mind when I walk in a room filled with corporate types. (Or maybe that’s just me being self-conscious). As a result, I’ve found myself making concerted efforts to speak and dress “proper” when in mixed company. It’s not that I’m trying to be something that I’m not, because proper grammar and tucked in button-ups are not just a “White thing” and I’m a grown ass man, but I feel just being a Black man in America I always have to work just a little bit harder to be respected. Furthermore, with Flavor Flav, OJ Simpson, Lil Wayne and whomever the hot negro mess of the month is being the prevailing examples of Black men in the mainstream media, I feel it’s my duty to make a better impression. I feel like I constantly have to represent for my race. I cringe every time I hear young kids of color spewing profanity, calling each other ni**a and bragging about their sexual exploits in public. While part of me understands this behavior because I come from those same neighborhoods, I know that most outsiders won’t. It’s not necessarily a Black or White thing, it all comes down to culture. Difference between any group of people—Black, White, Spanish, Asian, or Martian—are always going to exist. What one views as “normal” will be taken as “odd” by the other. Acceptance of these differences comes with interaction, education and conversation.

For the most part, Mark is right, I really haven’t had much interaction with White folks. I was raised in a predominantly Black and Latino neighborhood. I went to elementary and high school with people that looked just like me. Aside from my teachers, I didn’t really interact with any other races until college, but being that I stayed in New York and went to a local university I didn’t have the full culture shock experience had I gone away to school. I just went to campus for class and work, then I’d hop back on the train and head back to my homogenous neighborhood, where even there I pretty much stuck to myself. Even when I entered the “real world,” the White folks I’ve come across are in the business of Black culture so our conversations about hip-hop and entertainment provided me with a familiar safety net. They’ve been very few discussions that journeyed outside that musical bubble. The ones that have left me at a loss for cultural connection. It’s always been business, never personal.

On the flipside, my oldest younger brother (I know that sounds confusing but he’s the oldest of my two younger brothers) had a very diverse childhood. Being the brainiac that he is he attended a specialized high school in the city that had a large Asian student body. Then he went on to M.I.T. to study engineering, where he was one of two Black kids in his fraternity. Needless to say, my brother has a pool of friends that resembles a Benetton ad, while I’m stuck in a never-ending campaign for FUBU. I'm all "for us," I just never want to be “biased.”

Do you have friends outside your own race or just acquaintances? Did you grow up in a racially diverse neighborhood or attend a school with different races? Do you find that college is when people are first introduced to the “real world” and different cultures? Do you find yourself feeling out of place in mixed company? Do you act one way around your family friends and another when at work? Why? Do you think a person of color can make something of themselves legally without ever dealing with a White person? Do you think children of color that are exposed to other races at a young age have a better shot at success? Do you think someone that doesn’t have any friends outside their race is automatically racist?

Speak your piece…

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  • EmotionalFunk

    I wouldn't say I grew up in a highly diverse area but my neighborhood and schools were predominantly white. The were a few or a couple of other races too but mostly white. I don't ever feel out of place in mixed company, its just kinda normal to me but as for acting one way around friends or family well if I'm around mostly black friends I do talk more "relaxed and proper" with my speech even if I don't want to. I just noticed over the years is helps create less black to black friction and attitudes. I'm sure a person can make something out of themselves without dealing with white people if they are into support black business movement. As for the kids I think and know from experience that being in a diverse or mixed environment makes you naturally able to relate to others without feeling out of place. One thing I have noticed though is that my friends (black friends) who don't have friends outside of their race/ethnicity is that there is a lot more of negative and stereotypical talk/ hatin on people of other race/elasticities. I not sure it makes a person racist but defiantly a bigot IMO. It hard being friends with someone when they don't get you don't feel the same way or don't experience what they do. Probably because they aren't @ ease with other races/elasticities so they make up excuses

  • http://www.ajhayes.com A. Jarrell Hayes

    I grew up in a mostly non-Black area, but went to an HBCU for Higher Education, partially to get more experience with Blacks, and partially for the free ride. I think being around different races and cultures while young is beneficial to anybody, regardless of race, because it prevents isolationism when older. Is that being an isolationist being prejudiced? Not sure. But feeling awkward is common when introduced to new or unfamiliar situations. That doesn't make one prejudice. Gravitating into groups of similar race, experiences, and interests isn't necessarily being prejudice; its being human. Humans are, by nature, social and tribal creatures: like goes with like. Being prejudice all depends upon the mental thought and motivation behind the lack of a diverse friend pool and/or feelings of awkwardness. Perhaps you're just being human, NWSO.

  • M A R C R OO S E L E R

    Yessir! and proud, I have friends from the black to brown bow to the rainbow. I even told a friend of mine years ago (black female) who opposed interracial coupling that in the event that I ended up with a white girl (the only race she was opposed to) she and I could no longer be friends, based on her biases and honest to goodness dislike of interaction with white people. I did grow up with Jews and Latinos and blacks so perhaps that makes me more comfortable around other races. I do have a diverse group of friends and proud of it. I travel and have done almost every country in Europe and working on the Caribbean and then Africa, South America etc.
    Two weeks ago on a broadcast on Kiss FM sunday something, it was suggested that perhaps blacks are at fault for their own form of miseducation in that, not only do we not interact with whites, but we segregate ourselves from other cultures as well. For example, all black colleges, all black____ fill in the blank. But if there were a say whites only college we would be offended right?
    I sometimes ask myself if the civil rights were fought not just for the right to date/marry who you want, vote, equal opportunity, but also the right to self segregate and compartmentalize ourselves, and to be fair so do other cultures, and religions (Yeshivas) for that matter.
    There is no law that says you must have friends of another culture/race etc. But yes, I agree with the posting, how far does success take you if you don't diversify your ethnic/racial portfolios?

  • http://moesadventures.wordpress.com/ Moe

    *Do you have friends outside your own race or just acquaintances?*

    I will be honest and say I have just recently opened up my circle of friends to include white people and I love it. I however am a 22 year old woman who loves to go out and have a good time and these people know how to show me a good time that I was unable to find amongst my own people.

    *Did you grow up in a racially diverse neighborhood or attend a school with different races?*

    When I was a young kid growing up I lived in the suburbs of Chicago, specifically Country Club Hills. This was a pretty mixed neighborhood between blacks and whites. I hung out with a bunch of black girls who treated me like shit leaving a sour taste in my mouth that I yet to let go. I moved to the city (South Side) when I was about 13 and there was nothing but black people around. In grammar school I was still treated like shit by the black kids because I was very light skinned and 'I talked like a white girl'. I found a couple of safe and cool friends in high school (both black girls who had a lot in common with me). After high school (hell during) they both had kids and I went off to college childless.

    Despite my history I spent my first and last year at UIUC (freshman straight out of HS) and it did leave me very shocked and surprised by white people. I stayed in an apartment building filled with rich kids. They were spoiled, slutty, alcoholics and some I believe were on drugs. This was not very positive for me. I was one of those 'militant blacks' (I came complete with plenty Angela Davis posters and a strong opinion on how I was going to fight for the progress of 'my people'.) HAHA. I managed to form brief friendships with everyone on my floor that year but my close inner circle remained to be black women. The lone black man on the floor paid us no attention and only associated with whites to my knowledge.

    *Do you find yourself feeling out of place in mixed company?*

    Not anymore I have accepted that I am different because I am black and proud of it. I come from a black neighborhood filled with blacks and that is how I lived and it is the majority of what I know. Yet I am no fool and I always carried myself with dignity (I hope). This is what helps me interact comfortable with whites and what put me in the disfavor of many blacks growing up.

    *Do you think a person of color can make something of themselves legally without ever dealing with a White person?*

    To some extent yes they will have to interact with whites in some way (banks loans, interviewing potential employees,etc.---in terms of owning their own business).

    *Do you think children of color that are exposed to other races at a young age have a better shot at success?*

    This is hard to decide because every person is different and forges their path to success or failure in their own unique way.

    *Do you think someone that doesn’t have any friends outside their race is automatically racist?*

    Hell no...white people often separate themselves from blacks ON PURPOSE. In spite of this we are expected to roll over kiss their asses and move into their neighborhoods just to risk the chance of ridicule. You may not be friends with them because you never met on who relates to you which is normal and understandable since most whites make it no business of theirs to understand blacks. This is sad, unfortunate and racist because blacks have to conform to white peoples standards to have success in this world.

    Oh...that was a lot. I rarely post on here but this topic spoke to me...so there it is.

  • Lonias

    racism (wikipedia.org) ~
    the belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

    I grew up in Albuquerque, NM. I don't care what the statistics or the media might say, New Mexico is largely hispanic and Native American...not White and definately not Black. I grew up viewing and describing people with any OTHER descriptor BESIDES race. If I wanted to refer to someone whose name I didn't know, I might describe his/her hair, clothing, gait, almost anything but "that White lady/Black guy who just walked by..." Even as I write this it sounds foreign to me, but that was how it was.

    I sought and gained admission to an HBCU and that all changed. Mostly, this was because of its location: Oklahoma. I experienced what I thought were my first encounters with racists and racism (I'll explain this in a few...). I was the one to whom friends and classmates had to explain that no, that was not just snide, that was insulting. I was so reluctant to "pull out the race card".

    Fast forward to the present: I think back to some of the experiences I had in middle school and high school (not one romantic interest) and some of my parents' experiences (the company my father worked for for over 20 years waited until he had finalized his retirement to tell him he had forfeited most of his retirement fund by retiring when he did) and NOW I see race all over them. I have just become more aware of these issues in the time I have spent living in Oklahoma.

    I have to say that I have one truly good friend who is White (although we have lost touch) and I have White family members. I don't have many, but I don't call many by the name "friend" anyway...

    Now to answer the question: is a person racist if he/she doesn't have friends from races other than theirs?
    Well, according to the definition above, no. I learned long ago that the word "and" iin a definition denotes phrases that are not to be considered mutually exclusive. I truly believe that we choose who we call "friend" based on many factors. The one most relevant here is "environment". No one finds their closest friends outside of their "immediate zone", if you will. Even in this age of social networking and the web, people don't tend to establish lasting friendships with people they don't encounter often. Emphasis on "choose"...

  • http://myspace.com/kobe81fan Shay from L.A. (Los Angeles)

    Do you have friends outside your own race or just acquaintances?
    Umm...yes
    The guy that I am currently dating is white and out of my five close girlfriends, two are married to white men and one has been in a long-term relationship with a white man for years. Outside of those white people, the rest are just work acquaintances.

    Did you grow up in a racially diverse neighborhood or attend a school with different races?
    I grew up in a middle class black neighborhood. I really didn't encounter white people until I enlisted in the Air Force.

    Do you find yourself feeling out of place in mixed company?
    Not anymore. Since I graduated, I have always worked in corporate America; so I had to grow out of that fast. Currently, I am the only black person at my company and like NWSO, I always feel like I have to be the ambassador of black people.

    I am the business manager, so that makes it even more difficult. I place entirely too much stress on myself because I feel like I can't make a mistake. I have to be ten times better than a white person in order to be perceived equal. I come in early and stay late just to prove that I am more than capable of managing a business.

    Do you act one way around your friends and another when at work?
    I would say that when I am around my friends I am not as concerned about use of proper grammar (except my school teacher friend), but when I am at work I am always proper and professional.

    Do you think a person of color can make something of themselves legally without ever dealing with a White person?

    Life is all about who you know more than what you know. So I believe it is best to have all types of people in your circle of friends.

  • http://myspace.com/kobe81fan Shay from L.A. (Los Angeles)

    No, you can't touch my hair...

    I recall being in the elevator headed to lunch, and at the time my hair was in an afro (click my screen-name to see photo). I was so privileged to be accompanied by one of the many white women that I worked with (not). While heading to the ground floor, she turned and looked at me and expressed how much she "loved" my hair. I gave her a fake smile and brief thanks, meanwhile, I thought to myself, "what's the big deal? I just didn't feel like straightening my hair after I washed it last night." She then proceeded to ask me how I obtained my curls and when I explained to her that I simply washed, conditioned and let my hair air-dry, she seemed rather surprised.

    Simultaneously, I am thinking "is she serious?" {Express prayer} "God please let this elevator hurry up and open before I say something unpleasant to this woman." She proceeded to ramble on, and then she had the audacity to ask, "can I touch it, can I touch your hair?" Again, thinking to myself, "is she really serious? Does she think that I am an animal in a petting-zoo?" Of course not... well I hope not… but that is how I felt; like and animal and she wanted to pet me.

    Finally the doors to the elevator opened and I exited accordingly. Disgusted by what just transpired, I called one of my girlfriends to share what just happened. Needless to say, she felt the same way as I.

    Similarly, I experienced what I believe to be the epitome of ignorance of other cultures once again. But this time it wasn't geared towards me. It was a celebrity. I am sure that you all are aware of the famous baseball player, Manny Ramirez of the Los Angeles Dodgers. If you aren't, this is the perfect time to use Google, lol.

    A conversation began about how the manager of the Dodgers {Joe Torrey} asked Manny to cut his locks…Oh brother, here we go, was my thought. What do these white people from Orange County, California know about locks? Long story short… this whiter than white chick continued on in saying "That's good, he needs to cut his hair, no telling what types of bugs are crawling in his dreads." Meanwhile, I am thinking, "NO she didn't, I know she didn't just say something so ignorant!" Ok God, please don't let me lose my job for telling this Barbie doll off. I gathered my thoughts and temper, lol and asked her why did she assume he had bugs in his hair just because he had locks? She stumbled over her words and said, "Well, because his hair is all nappy and matted. I don't understand why people wear their hair like that anyway." Thereupon I explained to her that locks are a part of our culture and not just some fashion trend; in which white people copy just like everything else. Immediately she ate her words and crawled back into her hole. Consequently, I filed a complaint against her and she got fired.

  • RFB.

    Where to begin.... The city I grew is said to be very diverse and accepting. From the projects to the mansions, the CMB has got it all. Pre-gentrification ANYONE could come to Cambridge and find others just like them. The West-Indians/Africans (immigrants and first generations), African Americans, privileged whites, young college alums just starting out, gothic types, GLBTs....the list goes on, but everyone had someone they could relate to. Everyone co-existed in this happy little bubble…..at least that how it seemed when I was younger.

    Back then, everyone I rocked with was black because my mother only allowed me to hang out with other Haitian kids…..don’t ask me why. When I was 11 I transferred to different elementary schools to take part in an intensive studies program. It was no secret that there were more white students then black in the program. I saw no problem with it. To the black kids who were not in the program, I wasn’t “black enough” to kick it with them so I was cool enough to speak to but not enough to kick it with. Granted, at the time I was into N’Sync and Backstreet Boys hard, but I saw no correlation lol. But for my junior high days my friends were mostly white. They accepted me and kept it movin. I then went to high school in the boonies. My high school was a regional-tech school so kids came from farm towns in God knows where Massachusetts. I, like the other few black kids were terrified, so we stuck together. FINALLY, for college I decided to go to an HBCU.

    My lengthy Intro was to make this point. The older I get, the less white friends I have. I can give a lot of credit to going to a black school in what is suppose to be predominately black city. But even when I come back home to visit I feel really out of my element. I am not sure if it is age or what I’ve taken in during my years in college, but I look at white people soooo different now. I have 3 white friends that I’m still really tight with. When I’m around them I find myself subconsciously not being as IN YOUR FACE as I normally would and it freaks me out.

    With other white people I feel like I have to sometimes put on a front so they don’t think I am a negative sterotype. Even more so if I am the ONLY black person around.

    If I can’t be my true self 100% I find it hard to justify surrounding myself with people that make me feel that way. I don’t think that makes me racist, I think it makes me aware of who I am and what I'm comfortable with.

    Call me crazy.

    Ps…sorry for ranting. Lack of sleep does that to me. :-\

  • Elle

    Do you have friends outside your own race or just acquaintances?
    Maybe I should shut up on this one because I am not from the US and things where I reside are completely different. Where I am from, it isnt so much about races as it is about nationalities.
    In general, we are mixing it up quite a lot. I myself am mixed. Almost all of my friends are mixed. And the ones who are not come from different corners of the world. So my family and my friends are a cliche Benetton billboard if you will.

    Did you grow up in a racially diverse neighborhood or attend a school with different races?
    When I was a little girl, I grew up in a rather diverse neighborhood due to the fact that I was living in the "embassy quarter" of the city. There was no way around dealing with other kids from different countries.
    Later on, I lived in predominantly German neighborhoods and went to predominantly German schools. My friends and I were the spice to the overall rather boring clientel.

    Do you find that college is when people are first introduced to the “real world” and different cultures?
    Nope, not in my case or my friends' cases. Again, we are all from different backgrounds and have been friends since age 12. Additionally to that I travelled the world from age 2 on and have seen my fair share of countries. So all in all I was blessed to be surrounded by a variety of people, traditions, cultures, impressions which allowed me to grow up with a very broad horizon.

    Do you find yourself feeling out of place in mixed company?
    Nope.

    Do you act one way around your family friends and another when at work?
    Nope. I am me. Take it or leave it.

    Do you think a person of color can make something of themselves legally without ever dealing with a White person?
    Maybe in Tanzania or some other African Nation. But in the US? Nah.

    Do you think children of color that are exposed to other races at a young age have a better shot at success?
    In my opinion, every child who is exposed to a diverse range of people has a better shot at success because he/she learnes to deal diplomatically with men and women from different walks of life. Intercultural competence is important for all of us in a globalized world.

    Do you think someone that doesn’t have any friends outside their race is automatically racist?
    Not automatically. If it it on purpose, then yea. If it just happened that way, no.

    I understand the historical dynamics behind the racism issue in the US and quite frankly since history shall not and will not be forgotten, I dont think it will ever change.

    But to us, you all are Americans. Just sayin' ...

  • CJ

    I grew up in Kansas and Denver, CO. Lol, yes, there are black people there, but we are far and few between. Add to that going to private school, taking all AP classes in high school, playing classical instruments and swimming competitively . . . I'm not being racist, just stating fact that I did not have a lot of "exposure" or friends who were black. Not that my parents didn't do a great job of educating my sister and I about our roots, our culture, our differences, stereotypes that we would constantly have to fight against, etc, etc.

    Fast forward to 9 years later . . .

    I have my BA and MA. I'm currently working on a joint-degree for 2 more graduate degrees (I'm not bragging, this is going somewhere.) What I have discovered in the myriad of fields I've studied (psychology, sociology, history, public policy, law) is that DuBois' Double-Consciousness is alive and well. Basically, black and other non-whites in America have to learn to live in 2 worlds: that of their heritage and that of the majority. Furthermore, despite this whole post-racial idea (don't get me started) it is amazing the way that people will choose to ignore very real differences between races and cultures.

    For example, the white people in my public policy classes (I'm not generalizing to all white people) did not understand the difference between Imus saying "nappy-headed hos" and Snoop saying it. The comment was made that black people needed to stop hip hop. SMH. 75% of the buying power that keeps hip hop alive is white teenage males, how can black people stop them?! These same individuals did not comprehend why "refugee" was such a hurtful word to those displaced by Katrina . . . I could go on and on with other examples from other classes and fields (like professors choosing to call all the black people in their classes by the same name, even though none of us looked anything alike); not to mention real-life (Shay, I feel you on the "Can I touch your hair?" My response? "No, I'm not a dog.")

    All of this to say:
    NWSO, I think Mark's wrong. You're not racist, you're just un-apologetically non-white. There are plenty of other great examples of this in today's world. (Justice Sotomayor is a prime example. She doesn't dislike white people, but firmly believes that her background, heritage, history and experiences give her a breadth of knowledge that is not accessible to the great majority of white jurists.) It always amazes me how by simply exercising our God-given and state-protected right to live our lives as we see fit, people are labeled and denigrated. Two of my bestfriends are white, but because one grew up poor and the other is a 2nd generation immigrant (characterizations that they both brought to light themselves), they understand a lot more than the average white people. I call them up after the "Can I pet your hair?" incidents and both are usually more upset than I was. (Except for the day that it happened 4 times. They were just done then.) But my life has taught me that these two people are unique.

    Now? I'm surrounded by white people in every area of my professional life and find myself constantly on guard. In order to have the space and time to psychically relax and rejuvenate I've found there are only 2 options that work for me: be by myself (which one can only do so long--humans are social creatures) or surround myself with people who have similar experiences and life-stories (read other young, black professionals). Simply put, people are allowed to choose who they want to be with on their own time. Not all black people like other black people, etc etc. Mark could have made a better word choice, "racist" is too loaded for what it seems he was trying to get at.

    Sorry, for going on for so long. This topic just really hits home for me.

  • The Intellect

    I guess I am one of those people who grew up in the bubble. I lived in Prince George's Co, MD in the suburbs, and I have had to deal with my friends calling me a Cosby kid all my life. Because in my neighborhood, everyone was black and everyone had a two parent household. I can't remeber seeing a single parent household until I went to middle school and they started busing in the kids from the more "urban" areas of P.G.

    With that being said, I grew up with all types of friends from all types of socio-economic backgrounds and I really think that prepared me for the world. But when I entered into college, my circle of friends became very exclusive. I do have white acquitances, but I don't consider them my friends. I mainly hang with people of my own race, not because I think I am racist (which I don't), but because it is easier to let my guard down and not have to over think what I say or do.

    Also, I think my education level as something to do with my only having friends of color. In being around my white friends in high school I often had to school them on certain things or sometimes I even learned about their culture. But when I got to college and became a double major in English/African American Studies my eyes were open for the first time. Learning my true African history for the 1st time has, and I'm reluctant to admit, made me more prejudice then racist. Taking classes that pinpoint when racism was born in this country and learning how "White supremacy" and "African Inferiority" were created will make anyone angry and confused. Couple in the fact that I attend a PWI (predominetly white institution) in the South, and you have all the trappings for a need to not want white friends.

    All in all I don't think @NWSO is racist, I think you like other people (whites included) tend to gravitate towards people who you are comfortable with and who you think will understand you and leave a lasting impression in your life. What I want to know is why your friend Mark thinks having white friends or even dating a white girl will make a difference in your life. Is he one of those noble negroes, still thinking the white man's way is the only way?

  • Dc Man with a Plan

    My Mannn..This is why you're a STAR! For real, this is some real talk, here, so I give you props for being so versatile that you hit on the relevant one day, the silly the next and somethin sexual another time. True DIVERSITY! Let Rush Limbaugh top that!!! I think you TOTALLY covered all aspects of the thought process every African American man has at some point in time, especially if you work in a function that includes other races and ethnic groups in greater quantities than from your hood. I'm in IT....Been in a lot of places where I was the only black face. I've 'talked' thru this issue in the way you outlined it, point by point, even down to telling myself: Hey, I have ONE white friend...lol.....What helped me accept life for what it was is the realization that (1) white dudes are in the same boat...they might have that ONE black friend, but there is no real interaction away from the job....(2) we live in different communities, go to different churches, hang at different clubs........all that is left is work and MOST of us handle fronting there so it ain't about me. I didn't make this game...I'm just comin off the bench tryn to make a contribution....I do not accept that to mean I'm a racist, anymore than I would accuse white, Asian or Latino men of being racist bcuz they like being around peeps that look and interact with their environment in the way they feel is comfortable. You like Rock-n-Roll, cool, but we can't hang bcuz I don't. It is what it is. I recall when I realized I had no white friends...I asked myself, when is the last time you had a white person over to the house, other than for Thanksgiving or Christmas? <note: as a military vet, I spent most years away from my family...so as a married man at the time, inviting single troops ova who were also away from home was a regular tradition. but once the holidays were over.....The point is, living in a place you find comfortable, warm and inviting is a good thing for ALL people. Racism is what you get when you "break" a color barrier in some community and get a crossed burned on your lawn......Or the black cop gets shot by the white cop bcuz he's a black man runnin after someone with a gun(?) Or Reginald Bell gets shot after his bachelor party bcuz ALL black guys are potentially a problem(?) Be it right or wrong in YOUR eyes, my view boils down to this: I accept ALL "OTHERS" on a one on one basis, but Black folks I give a pass--until you prove you're unworthy of being in my circle...anyone else can get in my circle, just one person at a time...black people automatically in my circle until you do, say or behave in a way that excludes you.....

  • artsyheartsy

    I have one "real" white friend in my inner circle by your friend's definition, a few more in the wider social network and a few others of the close work friend variety.

    I have a deeply complicated relationship to race which is informed by spending my formative years and professional life in virtually no truly integrated spaces from white prep school to HBCU to work at institurions that range from th NY Philharmonic to inner city public schools and elite prep schools. They have all been either very clearly white or black. I am comfortable in either space professionally/accademically. I code switch much less than most folks because I have come to a certain peace with the reality that I "sound white" to folks although my name and appearance are both African and I let them worry about how I fit into their system of categorization.

    I know I am inclined to think racially. I don't experience or express this constant background awareness of racial dynamics as predjudice or act in racist ways. Still I don't have any white friends who are not openly able to talk about race and I think they all know that race is a thing for me (it shows up in my work a lot). I am an artist so I know lots, count one as my true homegirl (my kid calls her auntie!) and another few as friends who I hang with because I like them.

    I have never dated a white guy... I have dated every kind of black guy. People tell me I should get try it but I have not ever been approached in a way that has challenged me to go that way or met anyone who compelled me to think about initiating that kind of friendship. I say I am not closed, just haven't been convinced.

  • Kelly

    I only have one white friend, and it's a girl from my hometown who never left..and I only see her about once a year.

    And I'm white. I don't live anywhere near any white people that I know of.. and haven't for years. I actually had to do a quick review of my friends to see if I had any white ones.... lol I don't even think about it like that. I'm used to being the only white person everywhere I go, so it's not a big deal. /shrug

  • Dc Man with a Plan

    I'm impressed by the comments of Moe, Shay and the Intellect bcuz I think they represent a great cross-section of thought and beliefs in the African American community......Other comments I have seen speak to some of the wishes, hopes and aspirations I would pray our society could reach.....buterah, I'm not gonna hold my breath. there is many interesting books, but one that I vividly remember is called: Two Nations: Black and White, Separate, Hostile, Unequal. This book details, among other things, how when a middle/upper class communities population becomes 10% black......White folks start fleeing...Mind you, these are black people that are just as educated, just as well paid and just as conservative/progressive as their white community counter-parts, yet for "some" reason, white folks still don't want to be around too many blacks....Go figure... so do I accept the fact that ery'body, including ME is entitled to be comfortable and happy around their own peeps: hell yeah!

  • http://nubiansoulslocks.blogspot.com NubianSoul

    Well I was born and raised in Toronto and it's known to be the most multicultural city in all of Canada. However, when I was in high school, I thought it was cool to have only black/caribbean friends in my "circle" so I just chose to keep it like that. I had friends of other races but we would just talk in school/msn messenger but never outside of that. So when I went away to university things changed because I was pretty much the only black person in my class...the majority of them were white. It was somewhate of a cultural shock but I learned to deal with it by making friends that belonged to different races/cultures. So in the four years of my undergrad studies I have acquired a myriad of friends- some we lost contact but many I consider lifetime friends. So after university, I kept an open mentality when I entered the workforce and the same applied. So me choosing to be friends with only black/caribbean people didn't enable me to embrace and be open to other races. I'm glad that I chose to do so.
    However, I can relate to you NWSO about the Jamaican thing. I have had a lot of people assume that I was from Jamaica because I am black and I play mas at Caribana. Wasn't too much of a fan when they consider Jamaica to be the capital of the West-Indies. I'm not even from an island (but Guyana is considered part of the Caribbean) but I love me some reggae and soca. I kind of had to break it down to some people befrore they tell that to some other random person and their response might not be as friendly as mine.

  • englishrose

    having lived in Africa for the 1st 17years of my life, my interactions were mainly with black folk on a social level. I was sent to a private school with more white and asian than black people. that woke me up in the sense that they thought we weren't good enough to be on par with them in anything so when we excelled it was a surprise (obviously the stereotypes perpertrated by their parents to them about blacks). taught me to be wary of them so going forward on that never really had any white friends.
    fast forward to me living in England where i usually was the only black kid in my class at high school and university. it hasn't bothered me much and in the professional setting i still am one of the few black faces about.
    where i live there are very few black faces so am surrounded by whites on a daily basis. Am moving to Holland where i will be having very little interaction with black people so am sure i will make some white friends. will they last a life-time like the balck friends i have? i don't know, but that will be up to me as well as them to make the relationship last.
    No white friends as yet but aquaintances but Asian friends i do have.

  • S.S.

    My wife and I have always said that the reason most Black people don't have White friends is bcause our relationships usually end at work. they are never allowed to extend into our homes. I live in a neighborhood that is really diverse and I am fourtunate enough to have friends who are White. I've found that we have a lot in common especially my boy Darren.

    I remember my son's 2nd birthday party at a local spot, most of his friends were White and Asian, while all of his cousins were Black. One of his aunts said to me, "who are all these kids?" When I replied "friends" she was shocked. I'm assumming she expected all of his friends to be Black.

    I say all this to say, allow your relationships to extend past the works walls. Let them into your home you'll find that they are cool as hell.

  • Miss Brown Suga

    There is no way that a brother or a sister can be racist. The word and all its implications began once we (the brotha & sistah) were enslaved. Who enslaved us? (Please do not forget what we were before that... We were Kings & Queens, Gods & Goddesses) back to what I was saying...

    How in the world can we be a racist when the word began with us, against us, but not by us.

    The word RACIST/RACISIM exists because we are who we are. How can I or U be this if because we exist this word exists?

    FOOD FOR THOUGHT?

    N SHORT AN AFRICAN AMERICAN, BLACK/BROWN MAN/WOMAN CAN NEVER TRULY BE A RACIST. Even if they are against themselves, even if they hate their own complexion, or dislikes another brother or sister... we can never be a racist. In my opinion of course...

  • JD

    It don't matter if u Blk or wht...honestly clearly proven in the election I refuse and is tired of hear my fellow blk ppl say "its cuz im blk" ...NO! Its not its cuz u not trying hard enough stop talkin with your mouth and start talkin with ur actions true talent can't be hidden...weather blk or wht

    To add it was also proven @ da Olympics,and in fact in the NBA today!

  • http://myspace.com/nexus_da_underdawg da ThRONe

    1st off I only have one friend everybody else or just acquaintances. That one friends happens to be black.

    I grow up in a very multi-cultural hood and I think Im a better person for it.

    I dont feel a need to represent my race. Im me and if you gonna just group me together with other people I dont wanna deal with you personally. Who doesnt feel uncomfrontable around groups of people out side there own cultural?

  • e

    I feel you man! I grew up in an all black neighborhood, hell it felt like an all black city (ATL) then went to an HBCU in DC (another city that felt all black). As I entered corporate America, I didn’t really have a culture shock but I was very aware of all the differences between me and my co-workers. In the beginning I was a lot like what you have described, very cool with people at work but that was the extent of it, for the simple fact that I felt like I could never be myself around them. After working in this environment for so long I have become a little more relaxed around my coworkers and have hung out with them outside of work at a non work related function. It’s not the same though, on some level I don’t think that a white person will be able to relate to any minority but I can’t fault them for that, its just the way the world is. I just try to judge each person individually. I sit in meetings as the only black/minority in the room and wonder will I ever get use to this or get comfortable with the situation. There are a lot of people that don’t have friends outside of their ethnicity. I think you become racist when you refuse to allow your self to befriend someone based on their ethnicity alone.

  • Dc Man with a Plan

    @ JD..Are you kidding me? I did not read any comments on here that claimed black victim hood.......and peep this: I doubt you'll go on any web site or blog that is predominately geared towards White Americans....and find THIS conversation going on........But again, I like ALL people.....I just want Jesus to look like me (if he's got to look like ANYONE) when I go to my church of worship and look at the stained glass image.....I Just want my Mahogany hallmark cards.....After all, the white guy wants his hallmark card to have a white woman on it...Why should I not want a sista on mines? To remind me of MY mom, sista, women I love? THOSE are the kinda details you over-look when you think the world isn't mostly black and white. I remember living in OKC...couldn't find a Christmas card with a black face on it...WTF? How you think a white guy would feel if all the cards at his CVS...had black persons or generic flowers--and those were HIS only choices? Send your white neighbor a Christmas card with a black santa on it...or black angels on it...It's the thought that counts, right? See if they put that one up on display.......but check whether they see any issue, sending you one with a white santa...just the way it's supposed to be--right? I was in the USAF, and lived in Japan for 6 years, Korea for one....white people generally HATED Japan, bcuz to the Japanese, white Americans weren't anything special. Japanese think they're SUPERIOR, to everyone, at least the ones I came across and those my white counter-parts came across, came off like that. White dudes HATED that condescending, superiority, priveledged attitude these Japanese persons displayed...I laughed and said: Hmm, imagine that! Now you know how I feel...in America......So, yeah, an African American man was elected president...and he's been dogged in ways no other president has been--ever since. Rush Limbaugh actually said he hopes the president FAILS! No matter how much disdain most BLACK people had for Ronald Reagan...we never wished him failure, becuz if he failed--that would mean the country failed.......That's a " special " kinda hate. U gotta be REAL selective in your memory to not see the differences in reactions and expectations when it comes to culture. Bill Clinton got his dyck sucked at the white house…and he still rollin like a big doggg………U think president Barrack can get away with that one!

  • BK

    Im sorry Miss Brown Suga but ill have to argue that rascism didnt start with black folk. racism isnt even exclusive to white people. Black folk can be just as racist as anyone.

    In fact id argue that even trying to imply that racism is something exclusive to white vs black is somewhat short sighted and just as harmful an idea as rascism itself. So there is only one type of biggotry?

    Rascism is ANY race prejudiced against another race. Shoot, even black people can be racist againts other black people (Africans). how do you explain that? Not to dwell on the use of the word but it upsets me when that type of thinking is out there.

  • Anonymous

    Really don't buy into the argument that african americans can't be racist.
    I've witnessed it 1st hand jus by the snide remarks made my bother the men & woman towards me. I'm hispanic. & also witnessed blatant racism towards immigrants.

    Racism in its truest form is blind ignorance & therefore we're all capable of it

  • http://myspace.com/nexus_da_underdawg da ThRONe

    @JD

    I dont think that can dismiss centuries of hate and prejudice in one election. Sure most people use "Its cause Im balck" as in excuse ,but black people or in a position of weakness because a group of white people made it that way. And thats a fact! So to say black people have to work harder in a lot of cases this is true.

  • http://myspace.com/nexus_da_underdawg da ThRONe

    People stop saying African American what more racist then those words. Your not all American your the African kind that such bullshit! I have not once been to Africa.

    Can black people be racist ofcourse who's dumb enough to think racism is just available for one race. Some would argue(Chris Rock) that black people are more racist then whites because we are conditioned to hate on one another and everybody else.

  • Anonymous

    and racism wasnt created against blacks during slavery...it existed LONG before that

  • paulette-BAJAN-gal

    We've all been racist at some point in time.We live in a racist world...ie...everyone is judged by the color of their skin.Even within black culture we have prejudices depending on the shades of "blackness".

    I think the thing about only having friends that are your color is you have a limited view of the world at large.Whether you are white, black, Asian, whatever.I have grown to know and love other cultures because my friends are from them.Tonight I'm going to see an African artist perform with some of my closest friends who are Greek, Pakistani, American, Asian/American ((and the 2 males are gay)).Our skin colors span the spectrum....literally...and we still love each other.

    I think the problem is people think that you have to "sell out" to have white friends.It's not true.Actually...I find white people are more accepting of me as is...and I have to prove my blackness to black folk.And frankly I don't care what your skin color is as long as you respect me.

    I've dated white males and asian males...the looks I got from black folk was horrible.Definitely made me pause and think about my decision.But in actuality I found no "real" difference between them and black men besides skin color...((contrary to popular belief black men's penises are not the KING of all penises)).

    Racism and prejudice continues to exist...but we're each responsible for the way we treat people that are perceived "different".

  • Storm2FTL

    Outside of topic. I hated this Benetton ad pic when it first came out and I hate it just the same today.

  • http://myspace.com/nexus_da_underdawg da ThRONe

    @Anybody

    What or who is Benetton?

  • http://myspace.com/nexus_da_underdawg da ThRONe

    @paulette

    For the record my penis is king!

  • paulette-BAJAN-gal

    @ Miss Brown Suga...you need to go back to the history books and clear up some of the stuff you're saying.Our ancestors could not have ALL possibly been Kings/Queens...there was a slave/servant class within Africa before European slavery.To even be a King/Queen implies they are people beneath you.

    Black people can be/have been/are racist like everyone else.The word isn't something that black/white folk owns/invented because of slavery.It's a term that means you do not like another race.

    @ Da Throne....United Colors of Benetton is a clothing company that tends to have ads with racial unity type themes.

  • http://nwso.net NWSO

    @ da ThRONE

    Benetton is a clothing line officially called The United Colors of Benetton. Based overseas I believe. They're known for racially controversial advertisements and always having a wide array of races in their campaigns. The first pic is actually a Benetton ad, which some could deem controversial because it's a blue eyed blonde haired White girl and a dark skinned Black kid with her up simulating horns.

    Google "Benetton ad" and you'll see a whole bunch of wild ads. I came across one with a close up of a Black woman breast feeding a White baby with her other breast clearly exposed.

    Benetton been around for years, homie. But prob not in the N.O.

  • Elle

    LoL@Da Throne

    It's an Italian Clothing Line ... nothing crazy... just some colorful woolen sweaters and stuff

  • Elle

    ok, I'm slow .. my bad .. at least now he won't ever forget what Benetton is ... repetition is everything :)

  • George from da Block

    Do the dating experiment!

  • Latsyrc41

    Do you have friends outside your own race or just acquaintances?
    I have a couple of acquaintances that happen to be white, but the few close friends I have are black. I've had friends of different races in the past. I don't recall feeling any particular awkwardness or feelings of separateness or difference. They were my friends. The color stuff never came up.

    Did you grow up in a racially diverse neighborhood or attend a school with different races?
    Nope. Chocolate City!!

    Do you find yourself feeling out of place in mixed company? Do you act one way around your family friends and another when at work?
    I have been to so many meetings where I'm the only person of color in the room…I don't even notice anymore. I never feel like I have to "be" a certain way around certain people. I'm just me, all the time. It would take too much work to try and customize my personality to suit other people and it's not worth the effort IMO, nor is it necessary.

    Do you think a person of color can make something of themselves legally without ever dealing with a White person?
    Sure, why not? But maybe I don't understand the question.

    Do you think children of color that are exposed to other races at a young age have a better shot at success?
    I'm not sure if it matters.

    Do you think someone that doesn’t have any friends outside their race is automatically racist?
    No. But some are. I have a friend who is severely prejudiced. As I mentioned, I only have a couple of non-black friends/acquaintances. I don't feel like there's any particular reason for this (aside from my introverted nature)…it's not because of some deep-rooted hatred for other cultures.

    On a personal note, I dated someone white for the first time last year and I have to say that I was surprised how hard it was for me. I was very self-conscious. I'm still chewing on that one.

  • http://twitter.com/amakacamille Amaka

    *Do you have friends outside your own race or just acquaintances?*

    I used to have friends outside of my own race, but now not so much. Just aquaintances

    *Did you grow up in a racially diverse neighborhood or attend a school with different races?*

    My neighborhood was a mix of black, white, and phllipino...then I moved and it was more black but less kids my age. My extra-curricular social networks growing up were always majority Black, or extremely diverse (I'm from Oakland)...However I've always gone to really White (& rich!) college-prep kind of schools...Being that I wasn't white (or rich)...i clinged to a Blackness that I was desperate for...i was extra radical, stopped perming hair, had the white people scared of me lol...but even then, I still had friends here and there that were white--it was a small school with a bunch of liberal folk...When I went to college (USC) also very white and privleged, it was easier to isolate myself more within the black community because while also small, it was bigger than I had before...Still, I was part of all of these artist type groups which were very diverse, lived in South Central LA (mostly Latino now), worked in the Rampart division (Latino and south east asian). And I was cool with that, had friends from different backgrounds

    Now I'm new to NY, still building community, but even with being around white people all my life, when it comes to close friends--none of them are white. I don't think I have any white aquaintances so far in this city (eek that sounds bad)...but again, being in grad school--reallly white, privleged, and uncomfortable space(NYU)--i tend to cling to folks who are minorities...i need folks who can empathize with me! Though I will say race is different, east coast vs. west coast....in some ways i feel like Cali (and i mean urban areas in cali--Bay Area, LA, etc.) is less segregated than NYC....and there are less Black people in Cali, so maybe you are forced outside of that zone more often

    *Do you find yourself feeling out of place in mixed company?*
    It depends. I'm in a PhD program and in my classes and social activities surrounding the program, they are majority white and honestly people come to it with an intellectual arrogance that I can associate with race/class; only a few of the minorities approach research, discussions, and social situations in that way. i feel uncomfortable in that setting. However, if it was a multi-racial kind of event with cool laid back folks, it wouldnt bother me at all. The bay area has a lot of really liberal (& radical) white folks and thats who I'm cool around.

    *Do you think a person of color can make something of themselves legally without ever dealing with a White person?*

    I don't see how...It would be very difficult. Even when you are working in your community, in terms of getting grants and funding, most of these foundations and agencies are controlled by white people. Even Black owned bussinesses have to go to white banks to get loans--and now, black owned bussinesses have been struggling because we can now shop where ever we want and have no loyalty to our communities in that kind of way anymore.

    *Do you think children of color that are exposed to other races at a young age have a better shot at success?*

    Maybe so. But I've been exposed to other races throughout every stage of my life and still find myself uncomfortable. There are some folks who have been only around Black folks their entire life but yet can network and find a way to relate to people even with that difference. It truly depends.

    *Do you think someone that doesn’t have any friends outside their race is automatically racist?*

    Nope. You are friends with people you can relate to. A lot of what I'm interested in, talk about, and think about has to do with Black people--a lot of white folks cant relate to that. Other minority groups have their counterpart, so its easier for us to relate. But it truly depends.

    And also, I dated a white guy once. Granted he was a white guy who worked with Black kids, was always the token because he was around minorities all the time, and wasn't from the USA--but he was def white. Anyway, even with all of that, he still couldn't empathize with me when it came to day-to day matters with race---I remember I told him somn about growing up, being a black girl in all white schools and etc., and he just kinda shrugged it off and moved to the next topic......yea, that didnt work out needless to say...

    This was damn long, I apologize

  • http://myspace.com/nexus_da_underdawg da ThRONe

    Thanks each and every one of you! LOL

    @NWSO

    Trying to diss on a slick its cool I thought we were tighter than that ,but I not mad! LOL We are a food city not a fashion one!

    To elaborate on what paulette said!

    Most people dont talk about this but the first batch of slaves in this country were purchased. Rival tribes would sell there defeat foes for guns and European supplies.

  • litrisha

    I'm not a racist, I accept all races. I mean it's not about the races, to me it's about the people. I'm trying to think of how many white friends that I actually have? Nonetheless I am a chameleon and can blend in with everybody.......black, white, old, young, rich, old. So come on now everybody knows that it's still a "White Man's World", but WAIT A MINUTE!!!! What am I saying? WE HAVE A BLACK PRESIDENT......:)
    But anyway I'm cool with all races, but if they are acting like SHITHEADS, then they can kiss it!!!!
    Like I said it all depends on the person, and some people can be snakes. I still believe though that the lighter you are the more you are accepted, because if you are black but mixed then the Whites will accept you better, and I don't think that will necessarily change. We have changed as a black nation and came a long way, if we are in the White House.......THERE IS NO STOPPING US NOW!!!!

  • http://www.crewscontrl.com LBC

    Our president is HALF black and HALF white. Don't forget that. Yes! It is amazing we have a president of color (should have been happening!) But nonetheless, he is two races and people seem to choose one. Being bi-racial, I have never "chosen" one race to identify with, why would I? So it has always been hard for me to see why one race would only chose to hang with their own. It is also just as hard/confusing to hear "1st Black President". Yes, a mixed person may look one color, but your are ignoring their culture.

    Point is...

    When looking for friends or meeting new people, stop thinking so much. Be open, stop thinking about it and pay attention to what matters, like how the person makes you feel deep down, or what they have to offer. Not on the surface.

    Let the egos go ya'll. And just relax!! Embrace the MULTI-cultural world and stop acting like 'white' is not part of the MULTI-ness.

  • Latsyrc41

    Yeah, what @LBC said!

  • Elle

    LBC

    Amen!

    I have always hated this "picking one side"-crap. I am all of my bloods, not just one. To some folks, I'm "not enough this", while others would refer to me as "not enough that". Who cares? I am me. A cosmopolitan. I refuse to choose because it would always mean I'm denying one side of my family, one side of my ancestors, one side of me.

  • AC

    SMH.... People are people. Why does color matter?

  • The Intellect

    @ Everyone debating the issue of African Americans being racist

    I think we all need to decide whether you are arguing for being racist or being prejudice. Contrary to popular belief there is a difference between these two terms. Do I think African Americans can be racist: No because even with a Black president we still do not have the influence or power to take our PREJUDICES and make them into policies that will affect society.

    With that being said, I do think anyone can be prejudice and I think most people are racially prejudice because most of us grow up in households or environments where racial jokes/slurs/comparisons are the norm. Do I openly discriminate against people of other racial backgrounds? No, but then again I have made the conscious choice not to date outside my race; I have heard and even said racial jokes/comparisons. Does that make me racist? No, IMO I am openly Prejudice and have no qualms letting people I feel comfortable with (white or black) know this.

  • ChuckDonald

    Stop your lies.... If you really have white friend(s), we are going to have a party and you have to bring your white friend(s) along... How they your friend and they never meet your parents/family? Have you ever meet their family??? If you say they don't live here..... STOP Yo An, do you have white people/friends on this blog??

  • http://nwso.net NWSO

    @Chuck

    I have people of all races, creeds, colors reading the blog. Australia where you at? London stand up!

    Does everyone comment? I have no control over that, people be scurred. Beats me why.

    But it's funny I've had several IM convos today with people, who happen to be White, today.

  • Dc Man with a Plan

    going out to dinner with the united nations doesn't make one knowledgeable about other cultures and any perceived prejudices that may have been apart of their upbringing. Did you see Slum Dogs? U think you know people from India bcuz you have a an Indian friend? Go live in India...then you'll know about Indians...Go live in Pakistan...Spain......Guatemala and SEE how your perspective on what you know--changes.... I think you REALLY get to know people of another culture when you live among them on their home turf for months, not after a weekend retreat..Americanized Indians.....Asians.....Saudi's act WAYY different here, than they do in their home land. Regardless, I have ZERO friends from other cultures but have LIVED for months at a time in many different areas of the world and I am well equipped to socialize, drink, work, play and be merry with the best and worst of them. And how men talk and socialize is wayy different than how men talk to women..or women talk to other women...... There are lots of attitudes about everyone..Ask your "foreign born" friends how would their family respond, if they were to marry outside of their race? .Ever have THAT discussion? If not, you're just talkin surface B/S that can easily be faked and fronted on. It's one thing to be a guys f*ck buddy, quite another to be his fiancée'. It goes without saying that some people, in our most cosmopolitan cities like L.A or NYC, might be offended by seeing a sista, for instance, with an Asian man...but more are gonna be like me: I could give a flip less who you date, I'm not gonna stare you down or act like you're doing something unique bcuz there's still a woman out there for me and since I can't date or have them all....You are under no obligation to 'stay' black, after all, everybody deserves love..companionship and to be treated well and respected...On the other hand, I don't know a whole lotta Asian, Hispanic OR White guys who could bring a sista home..say this is gonna be my future wifey...and not cause some SHYT within his clan....Blacks aren't the only ones who like keeping their ethnic group pure....FAR more Asian families, Indian families and Hispanic families--require and expect their off spring to stay within their culture......Bash the black family all you want...But I'll tell you this: there aren’t a lot of others, tryn to cross pollinate.......

  • Ayanna

    I grew up in the hood, with only one white couple in the area, and they constantly got robbed because they were perceived as having more. I went to an all black school and church through 8th grade, so my interactions were pretty limited. When I went to the 9th grade my relationships quickly became based on personality because the Black kids were generally proud underachievers and the White kids were generally sheltered religious nuts. As a result, I found the few people who made sense to me.

    The only time I noticed that I didn't make white friends was when I went to the undergrad, and I think that I was going through such a life change by being on my own that I was looking for the familiar in unfamiliar territory.

  • Devil’s Advocate

    Black people stick to black people cuz we live in black neighborhoods, go to black schools, etc. Same deal with white people.

    We fail to socialize because we're distrusting of them due to our history and current reality (Obama or not). Plus it can be a strain to have white culture shoved down your throat 24/7. We certainly know a lot about white people. We watch their TV, read their textbooks, listen to their politicians and teachers. We're killed by their cops and jailed by their judges. We know them very well.

    They however, don't know us. Their understanding of black life, is mostly limited to the imagery the media machines allow to filter into white homes. The average white person "understands" black people via whatever is on TV. Which is sad since most of what white people see is a cartoon of what we are. For them this cartoon is real. And it is difficult trying to relate to people who see you as a character in the cartoon (most of these poor souls don't even realize they see you as a cartoon). But there are white people struggling to do and be better.

    Can we turn this around by isolating ourselves? Are we honoring the people that fought and died to end segregation by segregating ourselves? Why let current circumstances become your eternal reality?

    For those that take pride in not associating with white people... Do you really think white people care if you don't want to be their friend or date their daughter? Really? They're in the driver's seat. They ain't looking for your approval about jack shit.

    I understand why we're skeptical to cross the color line. But we've entered into a global age. Modern technology and global economics have made borders simply little lines on maps. If you insist on not participating we'll be left behind again. And who will we blame this time? We must become willing participants in a world that is consistently breaking down social barriers here and abroad. We were forced onto the sidelines for hundreds of years now we want to stay there?

    And to those who think we can't be racist because we were first. That's faulty logic. Like when you wouldn't let your kid brother watch cartoons because "You were there first"....yeah you were there first. Doesn't mean you're not being an asshole. Its a warped reverse-elitism. Racism is hate. You're saying you don't have the ability to hate because you're black? What is that some black superhero power I don't know about?

    Shit I'm glad when I see interracial couples. Certainly some may get into them because its a taboo thrill. But for those that are in it for genuine love...there's nothing more beautiful than sticking a middle finger at racism by demonstrating we can love each other. Shit Bob Marley had a biracial kid...what he's a sell out? MLK got shot for hoping that one day white and black people would see the brother/sisterhood in each other. That was decades ago. You still scared?

    As someone who respects you brother, I'll say the thought of dating a white girl as an experiment...well, tread lightly. How would you feel if some white dude slept with your sister "just as an experiment"?

    If you have an authentic desire to engage and share your life with people of other races by all means follow that impulse. But if you just want to do it for fun and games....you will eventually become what you despise.

  • ChiChi

    Growing up in NOLA, I've been surrounded by black people all my life. That was part of the reason I went to a "mixed" college. But, then I just stuck to going to work and class and never really had a social life. Now, I must say I feel weird around white people (or anybody else, too) when not in a work setting. It's a not a good thing, but it ain't hurting me? Or is it?

  • http://nwso.net NWSO

    @ Devil's Advocate

    Not sure you read whole post through or if the last part was directed to me, but i totally agree. That's why I dismissed Mark's idea of me doing a "social experiment." That idea actually seemed racist to me. Like, ooh, it's gonna be so different dating a woman that happens to be White, let me try it and blog about it. I have too much respect for myself and other people's feelings to do anything like that.

    I haven't dated outside my race not on purpose, it just hasn't happened. Whomever I date, I'd rather it be an organic free flowing experience regardless of color/race/creed/religion. But to go out and purposely seek out someone because of a specific skin town etc, is a bit lame to me. That's not saying I would never date outside my race, but it wouldn't be something I sought out but just happened naturally because I liked the person genuinely.

    And I don't "despise" anyone. Again, not sure if that was directed to me or just a broader, open statement.

  • kyliah

    NWSO this is such a good topic because I often find mysef wondering "am I a racist." I am a Black female who was rised in a mixed suburb of Chicago but it was mostly white. Throughout grammer/school and high school the majority were white and for some reason the black kids used to tease me because I wasn't Black enough. Eventually it didn't matter and I had friends of both races and it just worked. As i get older I notice that all of my friends are black, but the funny thing is both of my brothers are married to white women. I definitely feel that when I am around them or their family I modify myself (conversation, mannerisms, so forth) only because my friends tell me I'm always on 100 so I just would hate for someone of another race to think like that. (If that makes sense) On the flip side I do believe that my younger brother's wife is racist which is hilarious to me. She makes the most random comments about black people and I have had to step in and aggressively correct her on more than one occassion. Luckily they live over 3,000 miles away but I just hate to think of how my niece is going to be raised when she is half black and it seems like the only black person that my sister in law can tolerate is her husband!!! I never really even considered the differnces between whites and blacks until I was in college and I think that I made a turn to the militant side after my 2nd year of undergrad. I don't have a problem with other races, but I definitely recognize the differences and it almost irritates me when people act as if they don't see what's glaring them in the face. I don't have "conspiracy theories" and generalize groups of people but I definitely take notice to a lot of things. As far as my professional life, I work with a diverse group of people and I know how to carry myself in such a manner that it doesn't matter if you are black/white or whatever I know how to take care of business. I have white co-workers that I "do lunch" with or even work out with in our gym, they've invited me over their homes for different events, but I just can't go. Maybe one day but as of yet I haven't taken that leap!

  • http://www.newmoneymachinko.blogspot.com New Money Machink

    haven't even read the blog yet, and i already have a comment.

    that picture is frightening. LOL

  • Devil’s Advocate

    I read the whole post I'm just getting all my thoughts out about the topic more so than adding on to a particular comment. Sorry if I seemed to single anyone out.

    I wanted to say all I had on my mind because there are a lot of brothers and sisters who use our tragedy as license to do and say things that we know in our hearts simply ain't cool. Its the simple art of listening to ourselves sometimes. And imagining if you heard your own words coming out of a white person's mouth. If your words coming out of a white mouth would cause pain...well draw your own conclusion.

    But I also wanted to get everything off my chest because there is also the reality that for brothers and sisters who are more comfortable in friendships and relationships with white people they run risk of become ostracized and alienated by their own people.

    That's a dangerous game because you run the risk of losing a lot of folks that might contribute great things to the community.

    Who can we typically identify as being the types of white folk who hate other white folk because they associate with people of other races or religions? Neo-nazis, the Klan, the militant extreme right, and the just plain ignorant. So logically who can we associate with being the types of people who would hate on a brother or sister for associating with whites?

    Now I'm not saying anyone here has insinuated they 'hate' black people who befriend or date whites...I'm simply taking the line of thought to its absolute extreme. Tiny bits of intolerance can lead to full blown racism if it isn't checked. I'm using the initial argument/statement of this discussion and simply stretching it out further to show all its implications (at least as I see them)

    I hate to see our people that have gone through so much and struggled for so much better stop our struggle short. For the right to be as intolerant as those we struggle against.

    We have the audacity to watch our brothers kill each over over gang affiliations and drug deals. And instead of taking our own selves on, we sit around making up reasons to not have white friends or date white women? What is that doing for our community really? I am willing to make a leap of faith and say the people that are drawn to Anslem's blog are INTELLIGENT EDUCATED people of color. Well...its like they say....Show and Prove. By that I mean where are we going to take our community? Are we going to steer ourselves into a self-made new era of Jim Crow? I don't want to take that trip.

    I'm not saying we should all run out and date outside our race or make it a point to have white friends. What I'm saying is we SHOULD make it a point to be open enough that IF a white person that one MIGHT consider a friend or a lover come along we don't let pride make ourselves do without. I'm not even suggesting your life will be better if you have white friends or lovers. But its your ability to love ALL that makes you better. At least in my (maybe not so humble) opinion.

    intolerance is a dangerous weapon no matter what the color is of the hand that wields it. And that goes for any level of intolerance. A man can bleed from a pocket knife just as easily as from a machete...

    Anyway, that's all from me

  • http://teanhoneybread.blogspot.com t. allen-mercado

    I guess my race relations experiences closely mirror that of your older younger brother's. I grew up in a culturally mixed neighborhood with whites being in the minority. School however, offered a much wider variety racially and socio-economically. I do have white friends, I have dated and married outside my race. My comfort level however is contingent upon a few criteria, namely education with basic cultural awareness coming in at a close second.

    I'm a Native New Yorker now living in Arizona and have to say that it wasn't until moving here that I discovered what I coin the "burden of blackness". I am more conscious of how I dress and speak here, not with the corporate types but many of the others (careful not to pigeon hole anyone). Here, formal education or lack thereof is glaring proof of the divide. This heightened awareness is both a protective shield and a badge of honor in a place where I feel it is my burden or responsibility to show and prove, maintain a standard of (unexpected, oft-ignored, devalued etc.) excellence for the educated, successful blacks here in the valley.

    Do I discuss these feelings with my white/non-black friends? No. I could be wrong for not sharing, perhaps it would foster deeper understanding of burden vs. privilege. Thought provoking post...

  • http://www.newmoneymachinko.blogspot.com New Money Machink

    .. ok.
    I'm no racist. I just don't like White people.

    (buh- dum- PUM!)

    i keed, i keed. I actually have several white friends. I think it's because of my travels and music. Music is definitely a bridge- builder.

    If not for that, I can't say I'd have a lot of white friends.. simply because of the circles I move in, in NYC..

    Race/ color aside, as you grow older, most of your friends ARE your friends because of what you do for a living, what you do consistently for a hobby, or where you live. I'm an R&B singer who goes to backpack rap shows and lives in Crown Heights. *shrugs*

  • http://myspace.com/nexus_da_underdawg da ThRONe

    @LBC & Elle

    The problem with half breeds when there are black in this country is people only see your black side. I agree anybody who is mix would be doing themselves a great disservice to only embrace one culture.

  • http://nwso.net NWSO

    @ Da ThRONe

    No you did not just say "half breeds?"

    Ah, man, you done did it. I'm getting outta here now. They coming for your head.

    ***ducks & closes lap top***

  • paulette-BAJAN-gal

    Wow...half breeds???

    Race isn't even scientifically an actual thing.Remove skin color and we are essentially the same.Humans.

    The inferiority/superiority complex is very retarded.

  • http://myspace.com/nexus_da_underdawg da ThRONe

    I didnt know the term "half-breed" was offenses. I do apologize to anybody who it rubs the wrong way. But this also raises a point about different cultures. That term isnt even offenses down here.

  • EmotionalFunk

    @Da Throne

    Wow half breed, what was that comment about, come on? People can and should embrace all that they are. Stop that madness...now. You really can't see that a very derogatory term? ?

  • http://www.myspace.com/kobe81fan Shay from L.A. (Los Angeles)

    What about if you are of mixed decent and one parent isn't apart of your life?

    My father is from South America, but he was absent from my life, so I only identify with the black part of my culture.

  • http://myspace.com/nexus_da_underdawg da ThRONe

    @Emoitional Funk

    Did you read anything past "half breed"? I said the very samething in that same post. People we get to caught up in words and not meaning. I had no clue that saying half breeds was disrespectful none. But I can understand I hate being called an African American so I understand I learned something and I wont do it again.

  • Ms P

    Very thought provoking blog..once again! Wow, am I racist because I don't have one white friend?Never have. I grew up in a predominately northern Black city & did not interact with anyone white until I went to high school. In my high school, whites sat on one side of the cafeteria and blacks sat on the other side. The only interaction,other than extra-curricular activities, were the white girls who would sleep with the black jocks at our school. However, they would walk down the halls the next day like they didn't know each other. I went to an HBCU & live down south now. I work in corporate America but that is my only interaction with white people. I chose to live in a Black area & I go to a Black church. I have always heard that Sunday is the most segregated day of the week because most (not all) churches are mostly segregated. I don't have anything in common with the white people I have worked with, and I am okay with that. However, I have a daughter who loves white music and white male stars. (I blame that damn Disney channel! LOL). Although she is not really exposed to white people she embraces it all. Shrugs..

    I am on a black internet dating site, yet i am constantly asked out by white men (specifically Italian men. Hmmm...). I won't say I would never date a white man but unless he looks like Matthew McConnahey (sp), or Deniro picks me for his next wife :) I can't see being attracted to one. I just love black men. I do, I do! So NWSO I feel you on your post. I don't know if I am racist or not, but I just prefer my own to love. Like DC Man said I give black folks a pass until they prove otherwise. I am who I am, and I like it. I like who I like, & I want who I want. I fully expect my daughter to come home one day with a man of another race. If she likes it, I will love it. However, I am not seeking out white folks to hang out with, bring into my home, date, etc. I don't knock anyone who does though. To each his/her own...

  • EmotionalFunk

    @ Da Throne

    Of course I read your the rest of your comment and I simply stated that people should embrace all that they are...can I not say that too? However, I was just shocked that anyone could not know what is derogatory towards another, especially an adult. For instance some kids may call a black person a nigger. They are more than likely repeating what they hear at home, TV, relatives, etc. They don't necessarily know its bad and its meaning. However, after a certain point in time as they grow up into adult hood especially and start hear how its used, its connotation, the manner in which its used and so on its just understood its not good. So yes I am shocked you didn't know.

  • Mimi in the OC

    Do you have friends outside your own race or just acquaintances?
    I have 4 BFF: One is from Cameroon just like me, thus black (lives in Cameroon); one is half Vietnamese-half French (lives in France), one is Afro-American (lives out here in CA) and one is Mexican (CA). I definitely have friends of all kinds and it's also different kinds of friendships.

    Did you grow up in a racially diverse neighborhood or attend a school with different races?
    Sort of:
    Until I was 8, I was living in Cameroon--> Africa --> All black.
    Then from 8 to 11, we moved to Australia --> All white and some aboriginals.
    We went back to Cameroon ---> All black.
    Then we moved to France --> Mostly white, with a minority of Arabs, African immigrants and French Caribbean people.
    Then I moved to CA in Costa Mesa --> big Hispanic community .
    I go to school at UC Irvine --> 94% Asian...

    Do you find yourself feeling out of place in mixed company?
    Depends I used to, but not that much anymore. When I am in a certain environment, I know what to expect. Since I am already mentally prepared, I feel 95% comfortable pretty much anywhere. At this point in time, I only really feel myself with my family regardless of the location.

    Do you act one way around your family friends and another when at work? Why?
    Yes, I act different everywhere. I act differently when I visit my family in France, I act different when I visit the other part of the family in Cameroon, I act different around Afro-Americans, different around French Black people and different around Africans I (it's more a cultural problem than a race issue IMO). When I talk about it, I know a lot of people think it means I have no principles, I am ready to transform into something I'm not just to fit in at any point in time. But that's their take.
    I think most people haven't experience dramatic cultural changes that's why they can't really understand me. The way I see it, my behavior is just called cultural adaptation. Basically, it consists on acting in a certain way in the environment you are in, in order to make the most out of it.
    I have tried doing my own thing, "staying true to my culture" whatever that means. Reality? It's not a sustainable strategy. If you are exposed to an environment which is not "yours" for a limited period of time, you don't have to change because you know it's temporary. However, if you are in that environment for an undetermined amount of time, you better try to make the most out of it by ADAPTING. To adapt implies change, acceptance, tolerance and those are tough.

    Do you think children of color that are exposed to other races at a young age have a better shot at success?
    Maybe, it does force open-mindedness into your system.

    Do you think someone that doesn’t have any friends outside their race is automatically racist?
    No. Growing up, working, there is only so much cultures/races we can be exposed to in a given geographical area. Unless we purposely or involuntarily get outside of our standard environment, chances are we will never be directly exposed to other cultures and/or races, or we will but only to a superficial extent. It takes EFFORT to deal with other culture and races.

  • Mimi in the OC

    Do you think a person of color can make something of themselves legally without ever dealing with a White person?
    From a statistical perspective, it sounds/looks impossible.

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  • Mimi in the OC

    @ Paulette-BAJAN-Gal:
    I have to disagree. On AVERAGE black men are bigger/thicker. And it's not just based on my experience...lol. There are some studies out there. You must have met some lucky Asian and White dudes, I definitely haven't had the same luck...

  • sankore

    @ NWSO:

    I can relate to what you are talking about. I to feel that I have to represent black folks, especially in my line of work. I now reside in the south and I am employed in the Health Food industry. When we have trainings or seminars either I am the only chocolate chip in the bunch or it might be one sista in the crowd besides me. I always have to make sure that I am on point with everything thing that I do. Plus it doesnt help any since I am rocking a fro. At our trainings you should see the glares that I sometimes recieve. You would think I walked in the room with a pick extended from my hair screaming black power(lol).

    love peace and hair grease

  • http://myspace.com/nexus_da_underdawg da ThRONe

    @Emotional Funk

    Im sorry is there a handbook on whats insensitive?

  • Hope2Star

    i'm late as usual but thought provoking post! (isn't "Half Breed" a Cher song? j/k) I have friends all colors of the rainbow that I hang out with on a regular basis...but my best friends are all black (i 've had the same best friends since birth) and I racist? I dunno who cares LOL. this post has me humming a song from the Broadway Show "Avenue Q" (yes i'm a nerd!) It's called "Everyone's A Little Bit Racist".

    Here's the lyrics:

    Princeton:
    Say, Kate, can I ask you a question?

    Kate Monster:
    Sure!

    Princeton:
    Well, you know Trekkie Monster upstairs?

    Kate Monster:
    Uh huh.

    Princeton:
    Well, he's Trekkie Monster, and you're Kate Monster.

    Kate Monster:
    Right.

    Princeton:
    You're both Monsters.

    Kate Monster:
    Yeah.

    Princeton:
    Are you two related?

    Kate Monster:
    What?! Princeton, I'm surprised at you! I find that racist!

    Princeton:
    Oh, well, I'm sorry! I was just asking!

    Kate Monster:
    Well, it's a touchy subject.
    No, not all Monsters are related.
    What are you trying say, huh?
    That we all look the same to you?
    Huh, huh, huh?

    Princeton:
    No, no, no, not at all. I'm sorry,
    I guess that was a little racist.

    Kate Monster:
    I should say so. You should be much more
    careful when you're talking about the
    sensitive subject of race.

    Princeton:
    Well, look who's talking!

    Kate Monster:
    What do you mean?

    Princeton:
    What about that special Monster School you told me about?

    Kate Monster:
    What about it?

    Princeton:
    Could someone like me go there?

    Kate Monster:
    No, we don't want people like you-

    Princeton:
    You see?!

    You're a little bit racist.

    Kate Monster:
    Well, you're a little bit too.

    Princeton:
    I guess we're both a little bit racist.

    Kate Monster:
    Admitting it is not an easy thing to do...

    Princeton:
    But I guess it's true.

    Kate Monster:
    Between me and you,
    I think

    Both:
    Everyone's a little bit racist
    Sometimes.
    Doesn't mean we go
    Around committing hate crimes.
    Look around and you will find
    No one's really color blind.
    Maybe it's a fact
    We all should face
    Everyone makes judgments
    Based on race.

    Princeton:
    Now not big judgments, like who to hire
    or who to buy a newspaper from -

    Kate Monster:
    No!

    Princeton:
    No, just little judgments like thinking that Mexican
    busboys should learn to speak goddamn English!

    Kate Monster:
    Right!

    Both:
    Everyone's a little bit racist
    Today.
    So, everyone's a little bit racist
    Okay!
    Ethinic jokes might be uncouth,
    But you laugh because
    They're based on truth.
    Don't take them as
    Personal attacks.
    Everyone enjoys them -
    So relax!

    Princeton:
    All right, stop me if you've heard this one.

    Kate Monster:
    Okay!

    Princeton:
    There's a plan going down and there's only
    one paracute. And there's a rabbi, a priest...

    Kate Monster:
    And a black guy!

    Gary Coleman:
    Whatchoo talkin' 'bout Kate?

    Kate Monster:
    Uh...

    Gary Coleman:
    You were telling a black joke!

    Princeton:
    Well, sure, Gary, but lots of people tell black jokes.

    Gary Coleman:
    I don't.

    Princeton:
    Well, of course you don't - you're black!
    But I bet you tell Polack jokes, right?

    Gary Coleman:
    Well, sure I do. Those stupid Polacks!

    Princeton:
    Now, don't you think that's a little racist?

    Gary Coleman:
    Well, damn, I guess you're right.

    Kate Monster:
    You're a little bit racist.

    Gary Coleman:
    Well, you're a little bit too.

    Princeton:
    We're all a little bit racist.

    Gary Coleman:
    I think that I would
    Have to agree with you.

    Princeton/Kate Monster:
    We're glad you do.

    Gary Coleman:
    It's sad but true!
    Everyone's a little bit racist -

    All right!

    Kate Monster:
    All right!

    Princeton:
    All right!

    Gary Coleman:
    All right!
    Bigotry has never been
    Exclusively white

    All:
    If we all could just admit
    That we are racist a little bit,
    Even though we all know
    That it's wrong,
    Maybe it would help us
    Get along.

    Princeton:
    Oh, Christ do I feel good.

    Gary Coleman:
    Now there was a fine upstanding black man!

    Princeton:
    Who?

    Gary Coleman:
    Jesus Christ.

    Kate Monster:
    But, Gary, Jesus was white.

    Gary Coleman:
    No, Jesus was black.

    Kate Monster:
    No, Jesus was white.

    Gary Coleman:
    No, I'm pretty sure that Jesus was black-

    Princeton:
    Guys, guys...Jesus was Jewish!

    Brian:
    Hey guys, what are you laughing about?

    Gary Coleman:
    Racism!

    Brian:
    Cool.

    Christmas Eve:
    BRIAN! Come back here!
    You take out lecycuraburs!

    Princeton:
    What's that mean?

    Brian:
    Um, recyclables.
    Hey, don't laugh at her!
    How many languages do you speak?

    Kate Monster:
    Oh, come off it, Brian!
    Everyone's a little bit racist.

    Brian:
    I'm not!

    Princeton:
    Oh no?

    Brian:
    Nope!

    How many Oriental wives
    Have you got?

    Christmas Eve:
    What? Brian!

    Princeton:
    Brian, buddy, where you been?
    The term is Asian-American!

    Christmas Eve:
    I know you are no
    Intending to be
    But calling me Oriental -
    Offensive to me!

    Brian:
    I'm sorry, honey, I love you.

    Christmas Eve:
    And I love you.

    Brian:
    But you're racist, too.

    Christmas Eve:
    Yes, I know.
    The Jews have all
    The money
    And the whites have all
    The power.
    And I'm always in taxi-cab
    With driver who no shower!

    Princeton:
    Me too!

    Kate Monster:
    Me too!

    Gary Coleman:
    I can't even get a taxi!

    All:
    Everyone's a little bit racist
    It's true.
    But everyone is just about
    As racist as you!
    If we all could just admit
    That we are racist a little bit,
    And everyone stopped being
    So PC
    Maybe we could live in -
    Harmony!

    Christmas Eve:
    Evlyone's a ritter bit lacist!

    and a link to the youtube video:

  • Elle

    LoL ... well since I was one of the 2 addressed by Da Throne, I can say I didn't feel insulted one bit.

    You're good in my book. But then again I'm not even a "half breed" as you may have in mind. If anything along those lines, I am a "5 bloods" :-p

    Devils Advocate ... I could have never said what you said so elaborately and structured. You're my hero.

    At the end of the day, God has distributed assholes equally among all nations, religions, genders and races (for those of us who believe there is more than one race).

    To me, it only boiks down to whether I get along with a person or not. And that has no bearing on race or the same/similar background/experiences.

    While I understand the "feel secure around what I know" argument, I do not share it. I love nothing more than throwing myself into situations and social settings I know nothing about. I love meeting people I normally wouldn't if I stayed within the same, safe circles. I love learning about worlds that are foreign to me. I love getting a glimpse of all the parallel realities that exists within the same geographical area. I have friends and acquaintances from the most diverse walks of life: skater boy, hippie chick, overachiever, jail bird, drug dealer, prissy girl, business man, career woman, social worker, artsyfartsy, african princess, bougie babe ... to name just a few.
    Just this past weekend I met some new folks whom I would have not run into had I remained in my accustomed circle of trust. While they aren't friends (yet), they are definitely people I would love to stay in touch with and bond in the future.

    What do I have to lose? Nothing. I can only gain experiences. And that is what life is all about to me.

  • paulette-BAJAN-gal

    I'm way more concerned about gender than race.No matter what color you are...men are "supposed" to be the superior sex.

    If people never inter-mingled we wouldn't be here as we are right now.I would have no problem with my daughter bringing home a white man if he makes her happy.

    Its interesting how black people only recognise the black side of Obama's family...I think him being mixed was the reason he won.He's able to see both sides.

    On another note..they are only 300 Million Americans...they are 6 Billion people in the world.Cornering yourself into a box is kinda pointless.I was born in Barbados...lives in the US...plans on living in Europe and Mexico in the future.

  • AGK

    Do you have friends outside your own race or just acquaintances?
    Haha, it's funny, cuz i'm white, bust most of my closest friends are not. I just never found the idea of only interracting with my own race interesting. I mean, u gotta have white friends, but still, u learn so much more when ur talkin 2people of other cultures. It's very intriguing.

    Did you grow up in a racially diverse neighborhood or attend a school with different races?
    Nope, all or most people in my area & school were of the same race as me.

    Do you find that college is when people are first introduced to the “real world” and different cultures?
    No. I met some people of other cultures in college, but i already knew many more before i even finished high school. Actually, for many years & while in high school, my best gf was of african descent.

    Do you find yourself feeling out of place in mixed company?
    Not @all. I actually enjoy it more, cuz as i mentioned above, it's all about new things that u can learn n new ways of thinking or looking @situations.

    Do you think someone that doesn’t have any friends outside their race is automatically racist?
    Haha, of course not. In some countries, u just dont get the chance 2interract with that many people of other races. But when u DONT want to meet them or talk 2them, that is def discrimination.

    I dont know if it's just me, but i've ended up hangin around foreign people more in the past few years, only cuz i enjoy their company. They seem more open minded 2me. It's all based on experience, of course and not all foreign people are the same. I probably was attracted 2the ones that had the same or similar mentality as i did.

    U can try it n not like it, but it'll still count as sth u've experienced. U can try n see how it works; just keep all prejudiced thoughts out of ur mind n try to see what the PERSON is really about, not the skin or facial characteristics ;)

  • asj

    Do you have friends outside your own race or just acquaintances?
    the people that are outside of my own race are mostly acquaintances to be honest. its just that i dont feel as though certain people make the effort to establish a connection so therefore we just acknowledge each other and not much more.

    Did you grow up in a racially diverse neighborhood or attend a school with different races?

    No i grew up in an all black neighborhood.

    Do you find that college is when people are first introduced to the “real world” and different cultures?
    yes i do. before college i never knew people from different races on a personal level. It seems like college opens the door to diversity. it has made me be more cognizant of different cultures and learn to accept different types of people.

    Do you find yourself feeling out of place in mixed company?
    yes especially if im the only person of color, it just feels very awkward and you dont wanna say something stupid so you just stay silent. so i feel where you're coming from.

    Do you act one way around your family friends and another when at work? Why?

    i try to act the same around everybody. my philosophy is that you just have to play the game and act appropriately for whatever setting you happen to be in. i dont try to entirely change though.

    Do you think a person of color can make something of themselves legally without ever dealing with a White person?

    It depends on what you want to do. However i dont really see many people being successful without some type of input from white people. I mean everywhere you look and everything you do it just seems like you have to interact with someone of a different race, its almost inevitable. However if more black people progress up the socioeconomic ladder, there is a possibility that in the future black people can make something of themselves without assistance from whites.

    Do you think children of color that are exposed to other races at a young age have a better shot at success?
    yes i think exposure to diverse cultures is a good thing . If children dont ever interact with people from other races, they may assume that the only people in the world are people who look like them. Therefore they may come across as ignorant when encountering someone from a different race. I think the common belief is that the more people you know from different backgrounds the better. If you are able to interact with many kinds of people, you will have a better shot at success.

    Do you think someone that doesn’t have any friends outside their race is automatically racist?

    No i would just assume that they never had or never were able to pursue opportunities to interact with people from other races. Now this could be because of money, lack of education or just plain ignorance. It can also occur because a person has had bad experiences with people from other cultures so they prefer to associate with people from their own race. I would have to really get to know them and discover their reasons why before i can honestly say someone is racist. Its just not good to jump to those kinds of conclusions.

    Great post btw.

  • Mark

    of course not, that does not make you a racist at all. but I only wonder why you don't have white friends. maybe this happens just because you lack good opportunities to do so. once we get to know people a little bit closer we realize that we're all equals no matter religion, skin colour, culture, nationality (I am brazilian) or anything else. so, be cool around people no matter who they are. by the way, I just dropped by to say that I simply love reading your stuff, NWSO! I always browse the older entries and read some really wonderful stuff. keep up the good work! greetings from Brazil.

  • Jenn Perez

    Im hispanic and the majority of the people i hang out with are spanish and black. BUT i have a few white friends and half white friends. and i have a white sister in law who I really do not care for. The biggest problem that I find with her is that I feel that she feels that somehow she's better than me ~ not to mention the extreme difference in cultures, customs and the fact that I think she has no manners and is a fkng jerk. I find that my spanish and black friends and I vibe together more ~ can be more open and real with eachother cuz we deal with similar struggles all the time. BUT i have a couple of white friends who are just white cuz of their skin cuz they are just as good friends, honest and I feel genuine love for them. My ex was half black and half white with a white mom and she was truly a wonderful woman ~ who happened to run off wht a black man to rebel against her racist parents..
    My sister in law to me is someting different. Even when she's around my kids, I just get this 'vibe' from her and the stupid litltle questions she asks and just certain comments she makes that make me go Hmm.. But for the majority, here down south is quite the opposite from how it was in NY.. its really segregated here in certain areas..places or even functions. SOme of the white people that want to be 'down' are either EXTREME ghetto or extreme redneck.. very few that ive met are at a comfortable balance.
    AND my daughter has that straight up spanish crazy curly hair and this one older white lady was like "WOW it looks so coarse but it feels so soft" after she PET my daughter like she was a fucking poodle. So I did, in my nastiest Sneer barked "If you ever touch my child, her hair or even her fucking purse~ that is the last time you will feel anything".. and before she said anything i yelled "Callate" and walked off. I hate when people think they can touch you or your child~ don't even fucking ask...keep it moving you fool ~~ and the only times where that has happened has been with caucasians

  • Sherice

    I can look at this two ways. First, I can agree that we should embrace ALL cultures and try to have a friend from different races. It would make lfe more interesting and rich. That would totally depend on the kind of day I'm having or if too many people from those different races have pissed me off. However, the REAL me is saying why the hell is it so important that Black people have a white friend? Why can't they have more Black friends? I have to deal with people from different races on my job every day and while it's only for 7.5 hours, by the end of the day, I want to take my code switching mask off and be me. I love my Black friends because I don't have to explain anything to them. If I'm having a ABW (Angry Black Woman) day, I don't have to explain why. If I say someone is being racist, I don't have to explain why. Some people that have never experienced racism often require explaination as to why you feel the way you do. With a person of color, it's not necessary. With that said, I don't think it should be a requirement that Black people have a white friend. I think that white people should consider broadening their horizons by having more friends of color.

  • Mark

    @ The Intellect:

    I really must apologize to you, The Intellect. I’m really sorry if my words were misunderstood, but what I was trying to say was something totally different. I, being a brazilian, was born and raised in a country where it is impossible to avoid having contact or making friends with people from different ethnicities and cultures. when I was teenager I attended a school where on one corner you would be able to listen to people speaking English, on the other corner people speaking Spanish, and on the other people speaking my native language (Portuguese). we had this ethnic and cultural diversity there. I grew up with all this diversity. Brazil is a country where there was a lot of race mixing since we were colonized by the portuguese people many centuries ago. That’s why I have to say it’s pretty hard for me to define/classify my ethnic background. although I consider myself to be latin, I also know that a lot of black, indian and portuguese blood runs through my veins. I didn’t have the intention to lack respect for you or NWSO! And I feel I have to apologize if my words were misunderstood. I don’t know exactly how things are there in the United States, but maybe here in my country things are a little bit different…

  • patticakes

    I've always lived in prodominantly white areas, but hey I'm white. The high school I attended only had maybe 3-5 black students and they were from a juvenile detention center.There was a lot of racism and a lot of exoticizing. White students wanted to befriend the black students simply because they were black like they were accessories. And I definetly found myself doing this, actively seeking out friendships with people of other races because it looked good.I remember thinking my college was very diverse, but black students made up about 8% of the student body. I had my first close friendship with a black person in college. She and I were incredibly close, best friends. And I was relieved to realize our friendship was geniune and not a contrivance on my part. I used to feel the urge to specifically make black friends. And I would feel bad if I didn't click with a black person even if we had nothing in common. I only noticed I had stopped doing this when I started again. I noticed that most of my friends are white and thought oh, no! But I don't like the way it feels to actively seek out a friendship with someone souly because of their race. I welcome friendships with people with whom I have a lot in common regardless of their race. And I actively put myself in diverse environments. But I don't chase after black friends anymore.

  • DAVID J

    THANK YOU AGAIN FOR OPENING A VERY SERIOUS TOPIC!
    NWSO WELL I'M MIX (HALF BREED) DA THRONE YOU ALRIGHT BECAUSE LEST YOU WHERE REAL AND SOMEONE SAID A GOOD STATEMENT T THAT RACIST IS DEFERENT THAN PREJUDICE MY DAD WAS CHOCOLATE I MEAN CAR TIRE CH. AND MY MOM CAUCASIAN AND WE LIVE IN PHILLY 7YR JERSEY 2 YR AND HE WAS A MUSICIAN HE PLAYED WITH B.B.KING BOBBY BLAND AND JAMES BROWN AND HE MEET MY MOM IN A ALL WHITE CLUB WHERE THE BLACK ARTIST HAD TO STAY IN THE BACK AND THEN COME OUT AND PLAYED AND GO BACK IN THE BACK AND THEN LEAVE WELL HERE IS WHERE THE STORY GETS RUFF 1 NIGHT MY MOM AND DAD LEFT THE CLUB AND 2 "W" OFFICER PULL THEM OVER AND MADE MY DAD GO TO THE BACK OF THE CAR AND MOM TO THE FRONT AND THE OFF. ASK HER YOU TRASH WHAT YOU DOING WITH THIS N$$$$ER !!! SO NOW THE STORY HAS ANOTHER TWIST I WOULD ALWAY HEAR HIM SAY YOU ARE NOT GONNA HAVE THOSE N$$$$ER IN MY HOUSE AND CRACKER THIS AND CRACKER THAT SO WAS HE RACIST ARE PREDIGEST SO ALL I EVER HAD WAS BLACK FRIENDS AND 1 WHITE NO HERE IN JACKSONVILLE YOUR WHITE STAY MOSTLY ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND THE BLACKS ON THE NORTH AND EAST SIDE WELL THE TIMES I SPENT ON THE SOUTH SIDE I DIDN'T ALWAYS HERE THAT ALL BLACK PEOPLE EVER DID WAS SMOKE WEED EAT WATERMELON & CHICKEN AND SCREW AND MY WHITE FRIED TREATED ME JUST AS GOOD AS MY BLACK FRIENDS BUT IN ME I ALMOST COULDN'T STAND A RED NECK WHICH IS DEFERENTS SORT ALIKE THE K.K.K AND WHITE SUPREMACIES AND DA THRONE AND SOMEONE ELSE SAID SOME TRUTH TO THE SUBJECT WE ALL NEED TO GO BACK AND STUDY HISTORY AND WHERE WE REALLY DID START OUT FROM WHAT SAD THEY SAY IF YOU EVER WANT TO HIDE SOMETHING FROM A BLACK MAN PUT IT IN A BOOK NOW THAT WAS THEN THIS IS TEENAGE YEARS WHEN I WENT TO GEORGIA MY UNCLE TOLD ME WHEN I COME THERE I WOULD SEE JAX DEFERENT NOW I WAS THINK THE PEOPLE WAS GOING BE WEARING OVER RAWLY AND RAGGED SHOWS BUT WAS I IN FOR A SURPRISE'S HAD MORE NAME BRAND CLOTHS THAN HERE WHEN I CAME BACK HOME IT HAD CHANGE BOYS THAT I WENT TO SCHOOL WITH WAS DRIVING BETTER CARS THEN THERE MOM & DAD 1987 THAT WHEN THE DRUG GAME BECAME VERY KNOWN HERE HALF OF THEM WAS EITHER DEAD OR IN JAIL UNLCE GOT ON-IT AND TOTALLY CHANGE AND LOST EVERYTHING EVEN HIS DESIRE TO HAVE SEX!!!!! SO LIKE THE GUY SAID LET ME BLOW SOMETHING OFF MY CHEST I AM NOW 39 WITH LITTLE GIRL NAME HONESTY SHE IS 9 I USE TO D.J IN THE CLUBS AND GREW UP ON OLD SCHOOL CRY ED OFF OF AL GREEN AND GOT MY FIRST WHIP EN OFF OF JOE TEX LEARN ABOUT SEX 7 IN PHILLY BUT WAS A TEEN AND GOT MOLESTED BY A BLACK BOY WAS ALSO THINKING IT WAS MY FAULT SO I WOULD LET OTHER BOYS DO THAT TO ME!!! THEN ONE DAY A OLDER MAN TOLD ME SON EVERY LIE YOU EVERY HEARD OR BELIEVED YOU GOT IT FROM SOMETHING IN YOUR HOUSE AND HE LET ME THINK ON IT A MIN. THEN HE SAID IT'S FROM YOUR TV TV SO I STARTED TO LOOK AT TV DEFERENTS WHEN SOME DID A CRIME FROM THE NORTH SIDE YOU SEEN IT ON TV ALL DAY LONG BUT WHEN SOME 1 DID IT FROM THE SOUTRHSIDE IT WAS ONLY SHOW 1 OR 2 TIMES KNOW IT GROWN FATHER IT'S IN THE MUSIC AND MOVIES FOR US TO CALL EACH OTHER OUT OF OUR NAME WHICH TAKE AWAY OUR SELF WORTH AND RESPECT NOW TO TOP IT OFF MY COUSIN GAVE ME A LETTER THAT WAS LEFT ON AN INMATE BED IT SAY JUST WANT TO THANK YOU N$$$$ER'S 4 BEING GANG BANGER YOUR HAVE KILLED OVER 7,8000 OF YOUR KIND AND WE DON'T EVEN MIND YOU WHO HAVE JUNGLE FEVER BECAUSE SOON WE WILL TAKE YOU WOMEN AND WILL HAVE KEEP YOU SO WE DON'T HAVE TO CONTEND WITH U AS DOCTORS LAWYERS ARE ANYTHINGS ELSE SO ONCE A GAIN THANK N$$$ER'S NOW I CRIED AND GOT MaDDDDDD MEN DON'T HAVE 2 EMOTIONS AT THE SAME TIME I WAS MAD AT WHAT THEY SAID BUT CRIED CAUSE IT'S TRULEEEE SO I'M GOWNING TO STOP RIGHT HER BECAUSE I'M FEELING THAT WAY AGAIN!!!!!!!!! PS NOW DON'T TAKE ME WRONG I LOVE ALL PEOPLE JUST DON'T LIKE THEM ALL NOW NWSO MAY GOD BLESS YOU AND YOU KEEP DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING CAUSE YOU ARE THE REAL REASON I EVEN TOOK THE CHANCE TO TELL MY STORY WITH LOVE FROM MY HEART

  • Mark

    @ DC Man with a Plan:

    I agree with you, DC Man. I’ve never had the intention to say that you are wrong. I was just trying to say that it is impossible to divide people solely based on their skin colour, religion, culture or nationality. I was only speaking about having a multi-cultural environment here in my country. In relation to social inequality, I can’t say this is part of MY reality because, in fact, it is part of OUR reality. No matter if we live in the United States, South America, Africa or even in other places. Social problems and prejudice exist everywhere and that’s something we’re not able to deny. When I look at my government, I know and keep in mind that the perspective is really horrible. Provided you have already traveled and stayed in several countries of South America, I am pretty sure you have already gotten the picture. I also know that there are a lot of dark skinned people catching hell all over the world. Therefore, I completely agree with your statement.

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  • John Hunter

    Miss,

    Your Queens and Kings of Africa were sold into slavery by other Queens and Kings of Africa, when they defeated their enemy tribes. The idea that Africans were sitting around, minding their own business until the white man showed up to enslave them all is about as real as the average sister's hair.

    The idea that black people can't be racist is about as ignorant as you can get. And ignorance is what leads to racism.