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Do You Trust Her Around Your Man? (She’s a Man-Eater)

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A couple weeks back I read a news report that said Johnny Depp’s longtime (12 years and two kids) girlfriend, Vanessa Paradis, wanted him to quit his latest film, The Tourist.

The reason?

Angelina Jolie.

Unless you’ve been living under a gossip-free rock, you already know about Jolie’s habit of hooking up with co-stars. Billy Bob Thornton and Brad Pitt, were both in relationships/marriages when they ditched their chicks for the pouty actress. Apparently Paradis didn’t like the idea of her man Johnny having a steamy love scene with Jolie and would rather he quit the project than risk getting caught up in her web of seduction.

Last I heard, this was only a rumor but real or not that’s a sign of someone with some serious trust issues.

The question, though, is it a lack of trust for him or her?

My homegirl Nia hit me up with a similar problem not too long ago. She needed to get a ceiling fan installed in her new apartment and since her friend Monique’s husband was an electrician, she asked if he could do the work. Monique said she’d ask and sure enough her husband was down to make a little side money.

The whole time Nia’s communicating directly with Monique to coordinate a day and time for her husband to do the work. The agreed upon day comes and Nia gets an odd text from her homegirl.

“I’m not feeling too well,” it read. “So we can’t make it today.”

You’re probably thinking the same thing that I thought when I read that: “What does her illness have to do with his work?”

Sure a doting husband might feel the need to nurse his ailing wife back to good health, but something just didn’t sit well with Nia about that text.

The following weekend Monique and her husband finally made their way over. While the husband was putting the fan in, Nia and Monique grabbed a cup of coffee in the kitchen. After a bit of small talk, Nia just said what was on her mind.

“How come your husband couldn’t put the fan in last weekend,” she asked.

“I was sick, remember.”

“I know, but he wasn’t,” Nia continued. “I don’t know; it just seemed like you didn’t trust me around your man.”

“Girl, I trust you, I just don’t trust him around you.”

WOW!

Now, Monique didn’t think that Nia was grimy enough to go after her husband, but she’s seen enough weak-minded men fawn over her to risk taking a chance. See, Nia’s one of those women that’s aloof about her own sexiness and has a tendency for winding up in unique predicaments with the opposite sex. Basically ol’ girl didn’t trust her beloved to be mentally strong enough to resist Nia’s natural sexuality—especially alone in a room with a bed.

I commend Monique for being totally honest, but, as expected, Nia was a bit offended. She made it abundantly clear that she had no desire to sleep with anyone’s husband and just wouldn’t do that—point blank.

Monique reiterated her point that her concern wasn’t with Nia directly, but just how men often respond to her.

I say that’s BS.

From where I’m seated, Monique is no different than Johnny Depp’s girl. They’re both insecure broads with trust issues. If you don’t trust your man just say that and don’t blame it on the next chick or her undeniable sex appeal.

Nia can’t make Monique’s husband cheat if he doesn’t want to. If she’s that worried about him straying then why is she with him in the first place? You can’t be by your mate’s side 24/7 and if cheating is on their day’s agenda, trust, it will get done.

As much as Monique says she “trusts” Nia she sure as hell ain’t acting like it. If I can’t leave my girl alone with a male homie without worrying about them hooking up then I have a serious problem.

In my book, friendships and relationships are both built on one important principle—trust. I don’t know about y’all, but it doesn’t sound like Nia or Monique has it.

Are you able to trust all of your friends around your partner? If not, do you really consider that person a friend or just n associate? Does it have more to do with your distrust for your partner or your mate? Do you think that Johnny Depp’s girlfriend overreacted? Or, does she have reason for concern considering Angelina Jolie’s past? Do you buy Monique’s statement that she trusts Nia? Or does this sound like the case of a jealous woman with insecurities? Could you stay in a relationship or friendship with someone you don’t trust?

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  • http://myfingersarentbroken.com/ GinaMarie

    Can I trust my man around my friends. Yes I can because they are my true friends!

    Now I did have this one girl that was like an associate and she was just a flat out hoe! I mean she was cool when it came to partying cuz we would get wild and crazy and have a lot of fun but I would have NEVER brought my man around her!

    I don't feel that makes me insecure that just makes me smart. If you know your friend or associate is a hoe or a little loose for a better term, then you would be a fool to leave your man around them.

    The situation with Monique and Nia I feel is a little different tho. I feel maybe there was some jealously on Monique part because if that is supposed to be your home girl and you trust her then you should not worry about her doing anything with him. She can't trust Nia or her husband if she thinks they going to get busy! LOL

  • mizze

    At first I was not quite on the same page with you in regards to being "insecure" just because a female doesnt want her man around another woman..I dont care how "secure" you are, that dont mean your man wont stray- just like it dont matter how fine, big your ass is, or how much you cater to him.. His decision to cheat is just that- HIS DECISION...But i DO agree with "If you don’t trust your man just say that and don’t blame it on the next chick or her undeniable sex appeal"- a lot of women tend to blame their man cheating or having a wandering eye on the next female.. I dont get that.. If the chick is hot, she is hot..how is it HER fault??

    I trust my friends around my man because I only have about 5 REAL ones and they have done absolutely nothing to make me think any differently. I dont see how ANY one could be a friend to someone that they dont trust. If you have to worry about your friend and man hooking up, there is something wrong with that scenario. I would believe that this person knows how her man or her friend is, and what boundaries (or lack of) they have in regards to O.P.P...

    I dont blame the girlfriend to be honest. I would think the same damn thing!! The bitch is BAD and she has a reputation of being around the time a "marriage is falling apart"..cough.. For her to just now voice concerns when it comes to ANGELINA and not all the other women he has been in movies with, then she is clearly more suspect of her rather than him because we know Depp be pulling groupie pussy left and right..They work long hours together for countless days..but you dont see NBA or NFL players wives talking bout they cant go to away games or what not because they dont trust the groupies.. it just comes with the territory.

  • THATgyrl

    Hmm. I can see this in all the ways you pointed out. And I have ONE best friend whom I trust implicitly with everything including my life. Would not have a problem with my man being around her. But anyone else? Its an old rule that you don't leave your man alone with any female period. Regardless of trust of either party. Just don't. Period.

    "See what had happened was...."

  • THATgyrl

    Oh, and as far as Angelina goes. She has a reputation for a reason. Because she obviously has no boundaries. Nuff said.

  • Anonymous

    i wouldn't trust another woman. Once you get burn multiple times by a family member then how could you trust.

  • karmagini

    Wow. I would question either my relationship/friendship or my insecurities if I felt I couldn't trust my friends or man.

    I can honestly say I'd trust him to be around anyone, whether they were my friend or not. Yes, there are women with motives, but that doesn't mean he's gonna fall prey to them.

    Me preventing him from being around any females without me is not gonna stop him from cheating. If he wants to do it, he will regardless of my influence. In fact, that kind of control could have the opposite intended effect, helping push that person to someone else.

    Both situations sound like the woman's insecure. I did some artwork once for someone's husband. I dealt entirely with his wife, who I already knew, and NEVER spoke, texted, IM'd, or emailed directly with him. I thought that was quite odd, but knowing her I do believe she has trust issues. I've also seen her accompany him when he's out doing his job. I don't get it. I don't even WANT to be that much a part of my man's life.

    Angelina didn't make those men leave their former mates. Those men chose to do so. Why do us women make excuses like this and blame women? Because we don't want to accept that our men stepped out?

  • Caribeza

    I totally agree with Karmagini, it's not about your friends/pseudo-friends/acquaintances of the feminine persuasion, it's about you and your SO.

    If I can't trust the person I'm sleeping with ... after together, he and I have decided to be physically and emotionally committed to each other exclusively, something is wrong with the equation of "you and I = Us".

    Even if I had women acquaintances (because they definitely would not be my friends) I could not trust, once I trust my guy that's it - I don't need to follow him around to make sure he handles other people hitting on him in a way I'd like... I trust him. Me imagining temptation around every corner will make me a paranoid, bitchy woman, and I have better things to do with my life --- keeping it positive!

    If I'm ever proven wrong and my guy goes off with another woman just because she tempted him and I wasn't there to stop it --- that was not the man for me and I'm better off if I find out sooner than later.

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  • candice

    If you can't trust your man friends to be alone together then you shouldn't be in a relationship or have friends for that matter. I'm single because I don't trust men to faithful. I have been hurt one too many times. So without trust I'm done. I'm serious when I say if you don't trust your man to be around other females leave him because he more then likely will cheat if he really wants

  • THATgyrl

    @ karmagini:

    Well to carry over from the last blog post, I still have many insecurities.... I have also never been in a mutually fulfilling, trustworthy relationship so its very unknown territory to me. And I have worked/went to school with and lived around a lot of unscrupulous b*tches who have made me uneasy about inviting any unnecessary drama into my life, let alone 'hypothetically' in the midst of a relationship.

    I guess I'm just tremendously afraid of being hurt yet again...

    Maybe I should just stay single.

  • Elle

    I trust my girls with my life. They are the bestestest friends anyone could ever ask for and more. I would kill and die for these women and they would do the same for me.

    So to stay on topic: I would definitely trust my guy and my girls to be able to be in the same room without me. No issues at all.

    However, I am not going to lie, I do not trust women I do not know/haven't met and who are supposedly my guy's female friends. In the past, I trusted his female friends to be just that - friends in a platonic sense. But a bottle of wine, some compromising situation and maybe some conversation later and sex not only hovers over the scenario but actively tends to enter it. Sorry, I am not going to set myself up like that again.
    If a man has sisters, a mother and a girlfriend what exactly does he need female friends for. He can get all his "female input" from the aforementioned women. I simply steer clear of men with plenty of female friends. Just like women who have nothing but male friends there is something wrong with a man who calls tons of women his friends. Dude is either gay or a whore.

  • http://www.dashofreality.wordpress.com Dash

    I agree but why refer to them as "broads"? smh.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/bradleysubershow Bradley

    I can't trust all of my friends around my partner. I feel that if in a relationship if you don't have trust, then you don't have anything. trust is important. Now if you can't trust anyone period then something is wrong. If you can't trust your mate then you shouldn't be with them.

  • QuoteMan

    It's apparent homegirl has settled for an unfaithful man(why else would anyone stay in a relationship with a man you don't trust smh), with the notion that she would rather the lesser of two evils; if he was to cheat, she would do everything in her power and within her frame to make it's not a close friend, especially not bad ass Nia. LOL

    @Elle

    "if a man has sisters, a mother and a girlfriend what exactly does he need female friends for"

    Sorry, I context that but I'll leave that alone for now, LOL

  • QuoteMan

    I meant "contest"

  • http://nwso.net NWSO

    @Dash

    Seriously You're offended by the word "broads?"

    **Adds to the long list of silly words people take offense to when there are plenty of other things to worry about besides that simple slang term***

  • Sherell

    I have friends I trust and acquaintances I do not. I trusted my former husband and had no problems.

    The reality is that people are in relationships that are not 100 % perfect, which includes the possibility that their mate might cheat. If that is not a deal breaker for them, then they may decide to stay. So in that case, they may not try to tempt fate.

    We all have some form of insecurities in our life. The challenge is how you manage it and attempt to grow and not go crazy in the process.

  • Just Once

    It's funny that this is the topic today. My friend just recently had this very thing happen to him. He trusted his friend around his wife. Then recently he caught his wife in bed with said friend. I'm hurting for him. But not as much as his friend is right now. lol.

  • Shequita

    I dont know now......................My cousin wanted to live with me temporarily and I was married. This girl has been a man eater since 14 we were both born and raised in miami but she is waaaaay more "miami" than I am. Fine as all hell and I'm in lil ole' Athens,GA now where men(most) arent that quick! She can get whatever she wants from men and had other reasons (not financial) for needing to crash at my place. So did she actually think I was letting her live with me and my man?????? Call me insecure all u want, that was not gonna happen. I have a few friends that I might worry about and few I don't and its not based on their looks or his type its based on their personalities. Sometimes its not about trust, its about common sense. Would you take an alcoholic to a bar??

  • http://www.dashofreality.wordpress.com Dash

    So what? There are always "plenty of things to worry about".... doesn't negate the fact that someone is offended by it. Everyone is different.

  • Rastaman

    @Elle

    “if a man has sisters, a mother and a girlfriend what exactly does he need female friends for”

    Damn child. I have only sisters and a mother and many aunts and female cousins and guess whaat I also have many female friends. 90% of them I never had any kind of relationship with....truth be told I actually relate well with women because many who are platonic friends know that I do not cross the line. My current lady even asked me on meeting one of my very attractive female friends how come I did not date her, since she seemed to fit my physical profile and I told her because I know her as a person and it would never have worked.

    But back to the topic, I will agree that trust is foundation of any relationship and what I get from this is story and many of the responses is that "women distrust other women a lot more than they distrust their own men."

    I think its sad frankly. It says true sisterhood has a long way to go and that many women truly do not respect their men and don't think much of them truly. As a man i would be insulted if my wwoman basically consider me some dog in heat who should never be allowed around other women because they are jezebels and I would hump anything. SMGDM

    Reminds me of the former NBA player Doug Christie, whose wife told the NYT that she flies to every game and he is not allowed to be alone in the presence of any other woman he is not related to, not even female reporters. Because she does not trust those women to stay away from her man. As if he ended up messing with another woman it was because the women seduced him. If some of you belive that you should asked that all other women be covered up in Birkhas to ensure they don't entice your man. The fundamentalist muslims must be correct then. Because some of the women on here are in agreement.

    I have to say ladies men have really made u all believe that each other is the enemy. Game over.

  • Winter137

    NWSO – A topic near to my heart, My X – Fiancé who I thought absolutely adored, loved, and would do anything for me, made a move on my very beautiful cousin/ roommate. I couldn’t even wrap my head around that Springeresque craziness. My friends couldn’t believe that he would do something so grimy. However, they didn’t completely blame him and had choice words for me. They all wanted to know why; we always went out as a threesome, she’d go to his house to use his PC (ours need to be repaired, he was blocks away), they were left alone, etc.

    My reply was because I trusted both of them and was secure in our love, my man’s dedication and devotion to us. My girl/guy friends agreed that he was a good man but temptation is temptation. My cousin is one of beautiful woman who oozes raw sexuality because she’s been blessed with a full hour glass figure. She doesn’t constantly seek attention but doesn’t mind an admiring glance for a confidence boost. Was I being naïve?.....* Kanye shrug* I don’t know but probably won’t be so loosey goosey in the future. I don’t think Monique/ Johnny Depp’s wife is 100% wrong or crazy. How trusting should you be? I really don’t know.

  • http://philothea-jerseygirl.blogspot.com Kimberly (@philothea_ks)

    My boyfriend is stationed in Texas, while I live in Delaware. Trust was definitely a factor in deciding to be in this relationship. I know he has female friends and he knows I have male friends. We are very honest about when we spend time with them so that there is no reason to worry. I always trust him. If anything, it is the females I am not inclined to trust. But for the sake of peace, I don't let that consume me. I know his intentions, so I have no fear.

  • Whew Chile!

    I dont agree with this post at all. Yes there are some women in the world with insecure / jealous tendencies...but the majority of women are not. One poster said it doesnt matter how secure one is...boundaries can still get crossed REGARDLESS. I trust my fiance and my home girls BUT just the way you meet someone (spending time and being open) the same can happen between a friend/cousin and your man and vice versa. All it takes is getting to KNOW someone even if its just in a 15 min conversation. Physical attraction is FIRST and foremost...people can like or not like what they see. But when the interaction starts its either a deal breaker or not. It really just depends on the person or persons involved. Its about whether they first find eachother attractive and IF they act on that attraction. ALL my girls can leave me alone with their man....even if I find him extremely attractive...my morals WILL NOT let me act on it PERIOD. That seems to be the issue these days people lacking MORAL VALUES. If you have friends and fam that stand for something then you wont fall for anything with them and you wont have to worry about it.

  • http://sleep-is-the-cousin-of-death.blogspot.com/ Tunde

    i actually wrote a blog post about a "friend" of mine who always happens to find himself trying to get at women that i have dealt with or my other friend deals with. he is a little younger than us so maybe he thinks its cool to try to "compete" or he looks up to us somehow and tries to emulate us. either way i'm thinking of the best way to approach this situation now. here's the link:

    http://sleep-is-the-cousin-of-death.blogspot.com/2009/12/man-law-or-common-courtesy.html

  • Malia

    I wonder how many guys would leave their girlfriends in a room with Idris Elba? Hanging her ceiling fan in a wife beater and jeans, glistening with sweat and stuff.

    It goes both ways.

    I think Monique is not insecure for not wanting Johnny to have a love scene with Angelina. You shouldn't look a pattern/habit in the face and ignore it. If she said nothing, and they hooked up, people would be like "well what did she expect, she knows how Angelina does."

    And sometimes it doesn't even have to go that far. It all starts out as tabloid speculation and rumor. Then it's all over the papers, magazines, blogs and tv. It puts strain on the relationship and becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

  • da ThRONe

    It amazes me the stupidity some people try to justify. If you have to watch him/her like a hawk why are you with them like Ans stated in the blog. This just defeats the purpose of being in a relationship. Im not going to get in a car with somebody I think is a serial killers. Likewise Im not going date a female who I think cant keep foreign dicks out of her mouth.

    I was notorious for bringing my girl around my friends(When I had more than one friend). I wanted her to matter to them like she mattered to me. And It makes it easier to spend time with the fellas and QT with your baby. I have a thing for females who tend to have alot of guy friends. So my girl usually is use to dealing with guys. I will always give any lady I date the benefit of the doubt.

    Now with that said I had my past love end up sleeping with one of my friends(For the record we were officially broken up at the time). But once again if somebody has no integrity they will do the wrong thing no matter how hard you try to stop it.

  • Rastaman

    @Throne

    Its funny u talk about bringing ur girl around ur friends...it brought to mind an issue I had with someone I was dating seriously that contributed to the demise of our relationship. The plain truth was many of her friends had hoish ways and would push up on me given the slightest chance.

    I was indifferent to them and her response was I did not like her friends, I noted that they were her friends and I was not necessarily going to like them especially if I consider them distrustful and disrespectful. I recalled a few of teh fellas telling me I should have gone ahead and fucked them anyways but I realized that I am not that person and it would make me lower than those other people in the end.

    Point is if you can't trust your man or your lady around your friends, you may want to take a closer look at the "friends" and the "SO". I am just saying yo!!

  • da ThRONe

    @Elle(hi baby)

    Trust if he wants to cheat he will. I dont think you should eliminate a guy based on the gender of his friends. I for one dont have any sisters and me and my mom never have "Real Talk". And my relationship with my bestfriend is some what shallow. I can only get emotional with females for some reason. While I agree that I will give all that to my lady. I dont think having a few lady friends is putting my relationship in danger. I dont buy into the whole "accidentally fucking" theory. Either you vaule what you have and will never jeopardize it or you dont.

  • M0ChA

    WOW! it is so funny this is todays post. I hd an issue like this with an associate of mine ..I would bring her around a guy of interest all the time (she knew we talked) and idk i just was really uncomfortable with her around him. for a while i felt bad about this maybe i was being insecure but then she started to tell me she's always had this problem with friends and her being to "friendly" with their significant others she claims she's just "friendly" but if you have this same issue with damn near every female you befriend than maybe its you. but her thing was she will never admit being wrong in ANY situation soo.. who knows i guess its a fine line between insecurity and trust *shrugs*

  • M A R C R OO S E L E R

    AHEM! Call it what you want. You must be a total idiot if you think it's just the "man's" fault and if "he's" gonna cheat "he's" gonna cheat. People (women) loooove saying it's the man's fault. Owe the eff up. As if he's cheating with his hands only. There is another party involved. One of the noted best things women do is hide shit from their spouses and friends (yeah men do it too, at least I can owe up). If you think for once your girls haven't even considered sleeping with your man, even the ones who claim they don't like him and you knew them since you were in grade school, you're a total idiot. TOTAL! Like the group. The story makes sense to me, I don't care how insecure you think your friends are, blah blah blah in one ear out the other. I don't trust a damn body. And if my girl's girl needs work done, my girl is coming with me, even if it's her sister, I don't trust them either. It ain't an issue, it's precaution. I've never cheated in my life, but I've had ex-girl-friend's sisters, mothers, friends and enemies approach me while I was with them. Relatives and friends have "innocently" flirted with my girl-friends. No one is to be trusted. I don't care who you are.
    Period.

  • Sherell

    @Rastaman.
    Well the brotherhood seems to be filled with integrity!!

    Well the enemy is not f##king each other, thats for sure.

  • DC Man With a Plan

    WOMEN are a trip! The dude is an electrician, what does Monique think he does all day? Electricians work in business and residential locations, day in and day out, so if he's prone to cheat, he's gonna have loads of opportunities to be in the presence of a woman who has NO reason to care whether or not he's married or in a relationship...smdh Her girl friend is not the issue. If a man has ho'ish tendencies, he's gonna do what comes natural. Personally, I, like Rasta, have enuff integrity, honor and self restraint to keep me from pursuing or allowing my lady's "friend" to proposition me.

  • Sherell

    @ da ThRone

    I agree! Folk only do what they want to do.

    On another note. How would any of you feel about your SO having thoughts about one of your friends?

  • DC Man With a Plan

    lol @ Elle, bcuz she said: ......U don't need female friends if you have a mom and a sista....lmao. U killin me. NOW you tryin to tell a man he can't maintain friends with the opposite sex AND date you? C'mon, Shawty! EVERYBODY has at least ONE platonic friend. Every man has run across at least ONE woman he wouldn't "do" and bcuz of that, they make GREAT friends. REAL men don't see everything with legs as desirable or sexy--even with beer goggles on. Maybe you have "control" issues?

  • da ThRONe

    @Sherell

    Thoughts are thoughts we all have them. Its human nature and Im a realist. Its integrity that keep thoughts thoughts and a lack thereof the foremention integrity that allow thoughts to become action.

    I will not date any woman that I dont feel have the integrity to respect myself, herself and our life together. Can I be wrong ofcourse nobody is perfect. But there is a right way and a wrong way. Dating somebody you spend more time concerned about their fidelity then anything else is no way to live.

  • The Mean Black Girl

    I'm Team Angie all day!! Fact of the matter is this these were grown ass men doing whatever they felt as though they wanted to do; regardless of whomever they had to go home to. Let's be honest if Angie was a man she'd be player of the millennium (I mean c'mon she not only bagged Brad Pitt {one of the most beautiful men in the world- it's been scientifically proven**}, but she's got 424579634 African and Asian children and one soon to be insanely hot natural born child with him, something Jen never even got the chance to attempt!!!)

    I agree with Throne, people are gonna do whatever they want to do. Not trusting someone and bringing those insecurities to light is a sure way to speed up the dissolution of something that wasn't gonna work in the first place. And more to the point, fucking doesn't just happen on accident. Shredding your tax forms, dropping your phone in the toilet, a pot boiling over, hell even dropping your kid, all happens by accident. Falling and landing in someone's pussy...yea, nah, you knew exactly what you were doing. point blank period!

    **http://www.oprah.com/relationships/5-Elements-of-Attractiveness-The-Science-of-Sex-Appeal/3

  • Chocolate Drop

    i still say people focus on the little dumb sh*t way too much.

    i agree with most of you who said that if someone wants to cheat, they will. doesnt matter if you are by their side most of the time. it only takes a minute to cheat (for you one minute men lol).

    i trust my fiance around other women simply because its not a concern of mines. im too busy focusing on how he treats me...not how he possilby treats other women. Until i see proof of cheating, i dont concern myself with it.

  • karmagini

    @Elle: I think the issue moreso is that dude thinks it's ok to be alone with his female friend and share a bottle of wine. Having female friends isn't wrong, it's what kind of friendship they have that says a lot.

    @Rastaman: I agree. Where has the love gone? Women can be such haters against each other.

    Applause to da Throne. We all have desires and feelings which should only be seen as such til we apply an action to them. That action is what matters.

    Some of trust involves blind faith. We never know what can happen. But there's a lot we can see if we just tune in. I don't believe people or relationships drastically change overnight, so in the instances where one cheated, I would bet a lot there were red flags beforehand.

    Aaaand... just because you feel mistrust for your partner, does not necessarily mean you cannot trust them. You have to be able to identify those feelings as rational or irrational fears. A lot of times our trust issues get in the way of seeing things clearly.

  • lola289

    lol@Rasta 'GameOver' indeed...

    It all boils down to trust... trust for him or her, vice versa.

    If he wants to hit it... he will. Regardless of whether its ur friend or a complete stranger.

    But I understand ol girl.. seriously... but at the end of the day it gets really stressfull to keep up w/ him! lol!

    Honestly, If you gotta guy like that then just deal w/ it... Some guys are just undateable(word?)! Look at Sandra she dated the 'white gorilla'...SERIOUSLY...did she REALLY think he'd keep it in his parts!? ;-)

  • lola289

    my bad, she married him!

  • Chocolate Drop

    also, people use the word "friend" very loosely when describing a "friend" of the opposite sex. that person is not your friend if you are attracted to them. also, sometimes when people are in relationships, they keep people of the opposite sex on their "team" just in case the relationship doesnt work out...and just call them friends. they are not your friend...they are your backup f*ck buddies.

  • karmagini

    My belief (for myself as well), is that if he feels uncomfortable telling me about one of his female friends, then it's a red flag.

    @Chocolate Drop:
    Yes, there is that practice too that we turn a blind eye to.

    But... I've had female friends that I've been attracted to. Now, I'd never act out on that because I'm heterosexual. You can be attracted to someone and it be a true, platonic friendship. My emotions or feelings do not dictate me like that. My actions do. If we start judging people by their thoughts before anything ever comes of them, then we're living in a world like in Minority Report.

  • Chocolate Drop

    but if you have those feelings, why are you friends with that person? especially if you have those feelings for someone else while in a relationship. i guess im talking about a type of attraction thats deeper than just physical. im assuming if you are attracted to someone who you consider a friend, that attraction is probably deeper than just physical, because you know this person deeper than just some random person on the street. and its that deeper attraction that would cause the problem. idk though.....i guess it does just depend...

  • karmagini

    Well... even an attraction deeper than physical doesn't mean I'm emotionally cheating on my BF or would physically cheat on him with that person.

    Example: I am still friends/associates with an ex, someone in our circle of friends. Sometimes I'm reminded of why I dated the ex and that attraction, but know bottom line, I don't want to be with him. Initially, it's just a feeling of attraction.

  • Hell to the NO

    Ok. I agree that if a person is going to cheat he/she is going to cheat. And there's nothing you can do about it. However, there are times when you have to be wise. Am I going to leave my man alone with the whore of all whores just because I "trust" that nothing will happen...absolutely not.
    There are just women out there that are griimy and quite honestly we all are human.

    If I was alone with a fine ass man....I"m sorry but the temptation would burn my a** up. Would I cheat. No. But I do understand how one can get caught up.

  • Coko4Eva

    First off. Hi NWSO fam im a huge fan but never commented, but this topic hits close to home for me. SMH

    OK i had a situation where my close friend and my X had "relations" the story is sketchy but non the less somethin went down. I dont blame Ms.Depp for her insecurity around ms. homewrecker Jolie but @ the end of the day as aforementioned its up to ur spouse whether they cheat or not, not you. In my situation i trusted both parties, am I wrong for that? NO. was i naive to think my friend wouldnt do some shady shit? probably... but @ the end of the day, you should trust ur SO, but know that even your close friends have hidden agends. Dont put urself/ them in a situation that could have a bad outcome.

  • http://therayway.tumblr.com/ AuthenticQueen

    My one (good) friend is, in all sense of the word, a hoe. In fact two of my friends are pretty much hoes. I think they're great people otherwise but they have their ways. These ways usually involve sleeping with men they have just met or upon meeting a person they would like to have sex with, setting the ground work to make it happen in the near future. It's unfortunate because the one friend in particular never feels fulfilled. She enjoys the sex and companionship but always kinda feels like shit afterward. It's this strange cycle. I have, of course, offered advice and such but to no avail. Smart girl. Stupid choices.

    So with all that being said, I do not plan on having either of my two friends alone, in a room with my serious boyfriend/ future husband. Say I'm insecure. Say whatever. What I'm not...is a fool.

  • da ThRONe

    @Authentic Queen

    With all do respect. You are foolish if you make a man your "Future husband" without the confidence that he would put both of your so called "Friends" back in their place the moment either one got out of line with him. Thats what this is all about.

    I really dont get people who allow other people to get close to them knowing that they cant be trusted at all levels. There is a reason I only have one real friend and that because I know he has my back with anything. You are questioning your friends choices for fucking random dudes. Maybe you should question your own choice for keeping friends you feel you cant trust.

  • Dena

    If a guy wants to cheat yes he will cheat but I think we all can agree that a man cheating on his SO with her friend stings more than him cheating with any random female. If she wants to do her best to maintain her relationships what's wrong with that? Maybe homegirl was more bumed about not getting her fan fixed a little sooner. When you're married it's a different story. until you take vows and walk down the aisle your opinon won't hold much weight besides it just being your thoughts. perhaps your knowledge is limited by your experience.

  • Onlyrookie

    I am fortunate that I have friends that I absolutely trust around my man and I trust my man around them and or another attactive woman. Moniique seems is insecure and Nia is better off without that friendship.

  • EmpressEther9

    These days I don't have too many people I put the label of friend on because simply put..alot of people don't always want to be your friend. They want to get in your business to make you the topic of gossip...use you for what you have...or take what you have because they simply envy.
    I have plenty of female associates that I know, simply put, are hoes so its not an issue of trusting my partner but trusting the female.
    I worked with some girls that I eventually became cool with and as time went on... their actions shocked me. I'm no prude by any means..but a married woman who will get off work @ 6, go to the club, meet with a male "friend" after the club for a quickie and go home to the hubby...needless to say..if she has this little respect for her husband..how in the hell can i expect her to respect me or anyone I'm considering dating? Ho-ish tendencies speak for themselves. I had some associates with significant others..or that were single that would fukk on lunch break @ work in someone's car. There's no way on God's green earth that I would have a woman, who's box was so hot she couldnt wait to get drilled in a private place by different men on differnt days, to be around my man. I would trust my partner..but would also not want my partner to walk into a situation that even Madame Cleo could've seen coming a mile away!!
    Any relationship I'm in..I trust my partner..if not then I'm mature and woman enough to admit it won't work. But I don't expect the next person, friend, acquaintance, associate, etc to have respect for me or my relationship cuz at the end of the day..they're not the one dating me and they are in no way obligated to me.

  • Angie

    I'm from the school that you can't steal someone that doesn't want to be stolen!

    That's all I'm gonna say on that.

    As far as friends, if you can't trust a person, I'd consider them an "associate" at best. I have maybe 5 FRIENDS in my whole life, and quite a bit "associates."

  • karmagini

    Man, I'm stuck on how many women call their friends/associates/acquaintances hoes.

    Would you call these women "hoes" to their faces? How would they feel if they read these comments?

    This just helps to perpetuate the decline of sisterhood, IMO.

  • EmpressEther9

    @ Karmagini

    I used to think the same thing. But put it like this:

    You meet a female through work or school, etc. Ya'll have a few things in common and ya'll vibe so you decide to hang out , go to the movies, club, mall, etc. This girl tells you she has a boyfriend/significant other. If during the course of your relationship, whatever the extent, you first hand see that in addition to her significant other, ole girl is sleeping with Ronnie the coworker, that cute fella that hollered at her while ya'll were at say, Applebees, oh yea...and she's still boning her ex boyfriend. Now you don't have to call her a ho to her face..because you know it..and I'm pretty sure she knows it too. Its true you can't tell anyone else how to live their life. But if "said homegirl" were to wind up pregnant and go on Maury for a DNA test, she would have the boyfriend, Ronnie the coworker, sexy from Applebees, and Mr. Ex as possible fathers. And those are just the ones that YOU may know of. Those are ho tendencies and regardless of how harsh it may sound..her friends/acquaintances/associates don't need to tell her that. Her actions speak for itself. If a woman wants to be overly sexual..to each his own..but be single and do what you do. If not...then at least in my book..that's a ho. Or if you are going to be off the chain, be respectful enough to be discreet with what you're doing so ONLY you and the person you're dealing with know what time it is. And if a ho asks me if I think she's ho-ing...I'm blunt and I'm gonna tell her to give her to put her juice box in the fridge and let it chill for a minute. Cuz that's what a real friend should be telling her.

    And if hoes don't want their exploits exposed..then they probably shouldnt brag about their personal indiscretions. And they should also choose who they give it up to..because men talk more than women. And alot of the word gets spread around the water cooler or outside on smoke breaks. So its not always an issue of sisters downing other sisters..its about if you know better then you're supposed to do better. That's almost like a crackhead getting busted for prostituting to support their habit, then turning around being mad that someone called them a crack head. Just like a crackhead, hoes (male and female) don't have to always open their mouth (no pun intended) for people to know what the business is because their reputations speak for themselves.

  • EmpressEther9

    And P.S.
    Mary McLeod Bethune said it best when she basically stated that you can gauge a race by the integrity and morality of its women.
    Its counterproductive to tear down others..but that being said..in some situations..people tear themselves down without any else's help.

    Sisters do drag other sisters down..because of insecurities.and jealousy..however this is not always the case in all circumstances.. I remember one thing my daddy always used to tell me as a little girl.
    ASSOCIATION BRINGS ON ASSIMILATION.

    I didnt understand it back then, but I do now. Going back to the crackhead example. If you run into an "associate/acquaintance" from high school and see he is strung out on crack. You give him the benefit of the doubt and hang out with him a few times and see that the majority of people he calls his friends are.....*drumroll please..* crackheads. Now if you're the only NON crackhead in the group..how many people who know your associate and his habits are going to believe that out of a group of 5 or 6 people..you are the only one not sucking the glass phallus? True you may not smoke crack like him and his friends...but trust everybody who knows that's the "Rock Steady Crew" is going to assume they recruited a new member. Unfortunately it is what it is.
    I have seen it many times. A woman with questionable morals and a reputation to boot makes friends with a few other females. And some of the guys who know about Mustang Sally and her riding abilities ...assume that "hey if they hang with sally..then they must all be down to ride" It just draws attention that isnt always wanted. Just because my associate might enjoy hot sweaty sex in a random place with a random guy..doesnt mean I'm down for the same.

  • http://spinsterstravels.wordpress.com Spinster

    "See, Nia’s one of those women that’s aloof about her own sexiness"...

    If that ain't me. :-| And to a certain extent, the rest of that sentence too. :-|

    Do you think that Johnny Depp’s girlfriend overreacted?
    - Not at all.

    Or, does she have reason for concern considering Angelina Jolie’s past?
    - She has EVERY reason considering her past. The men strayed and they're trifling for that. However, she was more than willing to participate in the cheating fuckery.

    As for the other questions, can't touch those yet. Gotta think about the answers.

  • Shannon

    My rule of thumb is, "When in doubt, leave her out," plain and simple. While there are some friends who are upright, righteous and real, there are some who are hard-up and especially if you have a (wo)man who is treating you right, some of these hard ups will try to get treated too.

    I had the same problems with my sister-in-law regarding my husband; my sister-in-law and I had been friends since grade 6 and while I felt I could trust her with my children and my life, when she got around men, she would send out the "I'm interested" signals and no way were they subtle; I mean, these were strong, heavy "I want to f*** you now" signals and it made my husband very uncomfortable and he would not allow himself to be alone with her.

    I trusted my husband; he traveled for work all the time without me and it was never a problem, but this sister-in-law...she would dress provocatively and always had to dance close to him and one day, she just kissed him right on the mouth; my husband immediately excused himself and I went off on her. She left and later my brother called me saying his wife said my husband tried to force himself on her; I told him what happened and he didn't believe me...until one day he came home from work to find his wife in bed with who was supposed to be his homeboy from grade school. A twenty-five year friendship and ten-year marriage shot to hell...

    I even had the same problems with my mother and sister once upon a time; they would go on and on about how handsome my husband was and would call him fix their computers--at one in the morning--and one day my mother came right out and asked my husband to pay her rent and car note and he simply told her that was her husband's job; my mother began to dislike my husband and tried to break up my marriage, to no avail; my sister plotted to get with a guy I was dating before I met my husband and both she and my mother told this man so many lies and so much dirt about me that he never called or saw me again; I was so angry that they would do that to me, but I met my husband two weeks later, so it wasn't a complete loss...

    I don't think I've ever had a friend or family member I could trust around my husband. I trusted my husband fully, but based on past experiences, I could not and did not trust my friends--I had to drop two when they came to my house under the guise of having their apartments fumigated and had the nerve to walk around my house scantily clad or even nude in front of my husband--or my family when it came to my husband. They were too obvious and I didn't want to put my husband in an awkward position that would have affected our marriage.

    It would seem that I am aloof about my own sexiness because I do have friends who will never leave me alone with their husbands; I remember just last year I went to a friend's house for a cookout and her husband was at the grill and he needed to put the meat on and even though the pan of meat was right there on the counter four feet from the back door, she insisted I come with her to get it. She insisted I come with her when she had to run to the store, when she made the baked beans and potato salad and even when she had to run to the bathroom. After the bathroom run, I came right out and asked her what was the problem and she said she trusted me but she didn't trust her husband around me. I asked her why was she with him if she didn't trust him and of course she said she loved him; I asked her how can she love someone she didn't trust and if she couldn't trust him, she needed to leave him alone and she accused me of trying to break them up so I could have him for myself, which was rich; this man wasn't up to snuff, really, and he wasn't very attractive--not to me--and I would never betray a friend, but it didn't matter to her. I never saw her after that.

    That friend was very insecure about herself; I mean she was a plus-size woman and she didn't think she was attractive and having a husband proved to her she was, I guess, and losing him meant she wasn't pretty enough to keep him interested. I mean, she wouldn't let this man get a job because she feared he would cheat with a woman on the job. Her husband couldn't go anywhere without her; she even arranged to work from home to keep an eye on him. I mean, the trust issues ran deep with this woman. Not surprisingly, he left her a few months later when she accused him of messing with his cousin (!) when she came home and found him working on her car.

    Now, while there's nothing wrong with judging a woman on her past, the men have to be held responsible for their behavior too. It really gets to me how a man will cheat and get caught and the wife/gf will go after the other woman; hell, that man knew he was committed to someone when he woke up that morning, and all that woman knows--most of the time--is what that man tells her. I was never the type to play Magnum, P.I or NCIS trying to figure out if a man is telling the truth; in due time the truth will surface. Lies have a way of making themselves found and if a woman is so insecure she feels she has to check up on her man, she needs to ask herself why she is settling for so little and then find a man who is worthy of her, not the other way around. She needs to choose, not sit hoping to be chosen.

  • Cece Nichole

    Wow. I would question either my relationship/friendship or my insecurities if I felt I couldn’t trust my friends or man.

    I can honestly say I’d trust him to be around anyone, whether they were my friend or not. Yes, there are women with motives, but that doesn’t mean he’s gonna fall prey to them.

    Me preventing him from being around any females without me is not gonna stop him from cheating. If he wants to do it, he will regardless of my influence. In fact, that kind of control could have the opposite intended effect, helping push that person to someone else.

    Both situations sound like the woman’s insecure. I did some artwork once for someone’s husband. I dealt entirely with his wife, who I already knew, and NEVER spoke, texted, IM’d, or emailed directly with him. I thought that was quite odd, but knowing her I do believe she has trust issues. I’ve also seen her accompany him when he’s out doing his job. I don’t get it. I don’t even WANT to be that much a part of my man’s life.

    Angelina didn’t make those men leave their former mates. Those men chose to do so. Why do us women make excuses like this and blame women? Because we don’t want to accept that our men stepped out?

    ***Exactly! Being around a man all the time so that he's never alone around another woman is not going to stop a man from cheating. in fact it may even ensure that once is able to break free of your vice grip he does do it just to have something different. If you can't trust him that much then you need to be alone until those issues within yourself are worked out. And stop blaming other women. they may dangle the bait but he's gotta jump on the hook**

  • da ThRONe

    If another person "Takes" your S.O./Mate buy that person a gift basket because they did you a favor.

  • The Great

    There's a difference between being insecure and being smart. Limiting temptation doesn't mean you don't trust your partner; it means you recognize all humans can be weak. I see no difference between limiting your friends' one on one contact with your partner and putting away the liquor when a recovering alcoholic comes over. That person may have been clean and sober for 15 years, but that doesn't mean you should put a glass of wine in front of them and hope they don't drink.

    It seems to me like the people who turn issues like this into big reflections on trust and security are the ones with trails of failed relationships behind them. Every woman and man I know that's happily married or committed knows that there are just rules of the game that might defy "logic" but are essential to making things work. For some, it's not letting your homegirl chill with your man alone. For others, it's keeping the ass and titties covered up unless they're together.

    Stop expecting perfection because neither this world or the people in it are perfect. Realize and accept what the shortcoming are and work around them. Maybe then we'd have less black relationship blogs written by single men and women and more by those who are married and rebuilding the black family.

  • Miss. Brina

    I actually went through a similar situation and it had nothing to do with me being insecure and nothing to do with the lack of trust in him. I didnt trust this chick with my pencil, but for me it was more of a respect thing. The girl was my roommate last year and she has 0 tact about throwing herself at your man in front of you. She would do it like there was no problem and she would even go after him behind your back. To me thats just flat out rude and disrespectful. I was not going to allow her to disrespect me in no kind of way. I trusted him completely and I still do because there are girls that try to get at him when i'm not around (he tells me) and I dont feel "threatened" (for a lack of a better word), but my ex roommate was just all kinds of disrespectful. I'm suppose to sit there and give you the opportunity to try me IN MY FACE? Umm I dont think so.

    I trust my friends, I trust him, and I trust him around other women I may or may not know. However, when I know you are just out right rude and disrespectful with yours thats when I have to be like, you not going around her without me. Its more of a respect thing with me in the end.

  • da ThRONe

    @The Great

    You just compared fidelity to alcoholism? Its not my job to limit my S.O.'s temptations its their job. And I would never be with a female who I didnt feel was fully up for that job. You cant control the actions of others. You can either have faith that the person your with vaules with you have or not. But why wake up everyday thinking that you need to deflect sex starved male/females away from your mate?

    @Miss Brina

    That is completely different then inviting a "Friend" over. Only to watch her like a hawk and making her follow you around because you have trust issues. Having a person flirt with your S.O. is bad enough ,but doing it in your face just ratchet things up. I'm not violent but I could see myself punching a dude right in his face for some shit like that.

  • karmagini

    @Empress:

    I agree totally that we are seen by the company we keep. BUT... when you say "Its counterproductive to tear down others..but that being said..in some situations..people tear themselves down without any else’s help," that's my thing. We judge the women who are promiscuous by calling them hoes. Deep down, they got issues and they don't deserve to also be torn down by more people. I don't like to judge. Call it like I see it, yes,but in most cases, when we say hoe it's not because she's getting money in exchange for sex. I believe words are very powerful.

  • Peach with a Twist

    @ The Great - You said it best

    It is not about trust. Cheating comes about as a result of opportunity!!!
    Limit those opportunities for yourself and your mate.
    I love my friends and I trust my friends but, just like Nia, some of my friends are naive about their 'sexy' and their feminine power so I don't create opportunities for them to 'happen to fall into inappropriate behavior with my man.
    I put more owness on my friends/woman as man (regardless of trust) will always be a man.

  • The Great

    @da Throne - I compared two kinds of temptation. Different things are sources of weakness for different people.

    The fact is, everyday people in relationships make choices about what kind of situations they'll put themselves in. It's not because there's a lack of trust, it's about recognizing, to put it bluntly, that shit happens. You can choose to allow yourself to be in situations and circumstances that make it easier for shit to happen, or you can choose to make it harder for shit to happen.

    It's not about being paranoid or insecure that your mate will cheat, it's about setting boundaries to protect your relationship from outside influence. No different than not telling your friends all your business or not arguing in public.

  • wasabi29

    "If another person “Takes” your S.O./Mate buy that person a gift basket because they did you a favor."

    This statement pawns every other statement here by a million times. And was just the answer, I was looking for. Thanks.

  • karmagini

    @Peach:

    "I put more owness on my friends/woman as man (regardless of trust) will always be a man."

    I have a friend who believes all men will cheat if given the opportunity. Guess what? She attracts men that will cheat, and I believe this is because that is her mentality. Like energy attracts like energy. It's science. Your perceptions are your reality.

    If you limit his opportunities to cheat, you may as well strive to be with the man every second. A drive to the store could turn into one.

  • Anonymous

    Shannon,

    No offense but your family and friends are grimy. Maybe you should move to a different town. I don't believe normal people would behave the way your relatives have.

  • da ThRONe

    @The Great

    There are a million things that I'm going to have to be concerned about before I die(if Im lucky :) ). My wife cheating on me shouldnt be one. It may very well happen. And even though my own fiancee(man thats weird just typing lol) would agrue with me if I find her cheating it will be a complete surprise. Because there is no way I would have let her get this close if I wasnt willing to die based on her honor to me and her respect for our relationship.

    If you arent willing to "Put the house" on that other person than either you arent ready for a relationship or they are the wrong person period, end of discussion. Because anything less than 100% trust is a relationship that is broken. And we wonder why the divorce rates are so high. We have no idea what the point of a relationship is let alone the institution of marriage

  • Sherell

    Chris Rock said "a man is only as faithful as his options." LoL!!

  • Sherell

    My Dad use to say :birds of a feather flock together". All these folks with these ho ish friends make me wonder.

    I have three real friends I have know for a long time. We don't see each other as often as we did years ago, but I would trust them unconditionally.

  • The Great

    @da Throne

    We're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one because we see this issue different fundamentally. From your posts, you see it as an issue of trust - will s/he or won't s/he cheat on me? Correct me if I'm wrong.

    I see this as no more than a boundary for the relationship. Some things you do or don't do simply because it doesn't smell right. There may not be anything inherently "wrong" in the act but the simple appearance of something inappropriate can be enough to start putting chinks in the relationships armor. It's not that I distrust either my man or my friends to do something. It's moreso about just removing that from the equation altogether. There are enough external and internal forces that can pull a relationship apart, why even let this become one of them? Absent an emergency, there's no compelling need for the two to be chilling or spending time together without me. So why force the issue? As a display of trust and confidence? You'll know from daily interactions whether your partner trusts you or not, so I see no need to create extra challenges to prove them right or wrong.

    Like I said, we'll have to agree to disagree because every couple has to do what works for them. For me and mine, we've been together for 9 years - committed and exclusive the whole time, none of that break up to make ups nonsense - and this works for us. You and your fiancee have to do what works for you two.

  • da ThRONe

    @The Great

    While Im cool with agreeing to disagree. What I just read was I trust my love ones BUT. I think we're losing each other at the but. For me it's either/or either you trust them and you dont give it another thought. Or you dont trust them and you need to set up rules and guidelines to make yourself feel better.

    You speak of "chinks in armor" and this is why it's crucial to trust 100%. Because for most couple those opportunities for miss trust will happen sooner or later.

  • http://www.youngbrothas.com YB

    Would you trust your boys around a stack of money that was yours, knowing for sure they wouldnt take 1 dollar?

    Some can say yes, others not so sure. The same can be said regarding having friends around your girl.

  • da ThRONe

    @YB

    I think the real question is why do you consider somebody your boy/girl that when you answer that question the answer is no or not sure?

  • QuoteMan

    @Sherell

    Chris Rock said “a man is only as faithful as his options.” LoL!!

    That was funny, but do you truly be believe that? The man is a COMEDIAN; Chris Rock once said there will never be even a black vice president, today look at us LOL

    BTW My mother used to say that saying as well, but the fact of the matter is our friends don't define us; at some point in time, we all had a friend or friends with different ideals & values we didn't share.

  • Sherell

    @Quoteman

    I am old enough, wise enough and smart enough to realize that although there is truth in humor it is not absolute.!! Geeezzz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Really a comedian?????

    But if you are capable of going deeper, you realize he is dealing withthe idea of temptation and the impact that it may have. That being said people are responsible for their actions.

    I personally do not become friends with people who's morals and values are very different then mine. And it takes time to determine who is a true friend , so initially I have acquaintances. I value my friendships and as time goes on I understand that they must be cultivated.

  • Elle

    Yadda yadda yadda ... all this PC crap about trusting 100% because otherwise you're just being an insecure bitch looks good on paper.

    Fact of the matter is, relationships and marriages fail everyday, every second really because of infidelity (among other reasons).
    If ONLY a handful of scandalous people were cheaters how come almost every single one of us has come across at least one if not more of said people?
    Mathematically speaking: chances are we're all going to get cheated on simply because most folks cheat at one or more points in their life.

    Ergo: why would I set myself and my relationship up by allowing some sort of fuckery like that? Why does my man need to go to the movies and to dinner with some chick simply because he calls her a friend? Like somebody said, people these days use the friend term horribly losely. Folks you had a crush on but it never came anything from it suddenly turn into friends. The whole term FRIENDS with benefits abuses the friendship concept as I understand it. Exes calling each other friends now. To all that I can only say: bitch please. As soon as sex has, is or will be hovering over the situation you ain't friends with a person.

    Humans are mammals. One of our main purposes in life is to procreate. It's an instinct. All the trust in the world cannot deny human instincts. If people are broke, they will steal. If they are hungry, they will do all in their power to eat. If they are horny, they will fuck. Point blank.
    The only difference is with some people it takes longer until they show us their ass - those usually consider themselves good men/women which is another term I consider to be complete nonsense. There is no such things as a through and through good man or woman. We all have done or will do others dirty at times.

    So I am with The Great, I will limit the temptation. Take it or leave it. I will never again tolerate female friends where yall "hang out" one on one.
    I once was foolish enough to trust my ex-fiancé around his so-called female friends only to find out later that he wanted to fuck them - yes THEM, not just one. Blahzay blah don't even try this "oh you put your bet on the wrong guy then" speech. He was the overall good guy on paper up until a point. But things happen in people's lives that make it hard to remain "good" - especially when chicks throw themselves at you, sweettalking you and putting doubt in your head about your relationship. Temptation is a mothaF and it get's the best of us. Ask Adam and Eve.

    *waves at Tron* Hi mistah ... yay you typed fiancé!!!

  • rodrigue

    hi i know that is peinful but a good friend is a good friend ,but this likfe is naw miserable ok? end d only thins i cant sade dont give to muh chance to ur friend to know ur boyfriend house.

  • Shannon

    @Anonymous

    I moved away from home just for that reason, among others. I know the in's and out's and the ups and downs of dating a deadweight, so I never give them a pass. I'm not so hard-up that I just have to have a man in my life; being alone doesn't bother me because I get along with myself and I enjoy my own company.

    Women like my friends and my family are also looking for a good man, but they would rather let another woman find him, then make their move on him instead of getting one on their own. Even my aunt dated a married man for more than ten years (!) and had two of his children and was bitter when he refused to leave his wife for her. Their children suffered dearly being caught in the middle.

    I know what you mean about them being grimy; this is why I never introduce anyone I date to them anymore. It's hard when you have a good man and so many other unscrupulous woman are on the make. I wonder if I were to ever marry again if I could even invite them to the wedding; sad to say, I doubt it.

  • http://spinsterstravels.wordpress.com Spinster

    You know what? Elle broke it down right and proper. It sounds about right. Thanks Elle. :-)

    Oh, and the same thing happened to me. When we were together, my ex had a best friend who was female. I had many suspicions and confronted both of them, and they both said no. He told me to trust him, etc. bullshit. He broke up with me for "no reason" - just stopped calling out of the blue, said he was "busy". Some months later I ran into him, and who was he with?

    Again, thanks Elle. ;-)

  • Elle

    Sounds like we were with the same dude@Spinster
    ;)

    Don't you just love the guys who will break up so they don't "technically" cheat on their girl with the next one they already have lined up?

  • http://spinsterstravels.wordpress.com Spinster

    Girl, yes! :-| ;-)

    If it's up to me, that will NEVER happen again. I agree with Elle 100% - call it insecure, jealous, whatever y'all want. Elle is right on point.

  • QuoteMan

    @Sherell

    Wow “if you are capable of going deeper”; Really? Capable?

    In all fairness, my question to you in regards to what Chris Rock said was not a challenge to your intelligence; I have a female friend who truly believes this to be true, and I was only asking if you do agree. I also do believe there could be a truth in humor; you see we agree on something LOL

    Frankly, when I heard this (a man is only as faithful as his options), I thought it was witty and funny as hell but gave it no credence. This only reaffirms the cliché that men are dogs and can’t control themselves when the opportunity is present.
    Now regarding friends with different values and morals – let us just agree to disagree on that. I for one will always have an open arm for individuals with different ideas or ideals; nevertheless, this does not make me a passive individual.

    No love lost, LOL

    @Elle & Spinster

    Perhaps you are playing it safe this time around – fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. I could understand that; to err is human, but believe it or not, we as men could have female friends without crossing the line, so to speak. LOL.

    I don’t necessarily burn bridges;(don't shake you head, LOL) I have female friends I’ve known for donkey years who know and understand me much better than my male friends. Of course, I’m not naïve of the big elephant in the room during our dealings; you acknowledge it and set your boundaries if you are a person of integrity. Shit happens beyond our control but how we respond is always in our control. With that said I firmly don’t believe in ‘accidental slip ups”. Our thoughts create our feelings and our feelings create our life or reality.

    Case history, there was an ex I was hanging with who blatantly confessed that she still has feelings for me, that severed our ties.
    As recently as last month, I attended my boy’s wedding; I’ve an ex who wanted to accompany me to the wedding because she was cool with my boy (through me) as well. Since she was married, I thought it was an inappropriate thing to do, so I said no.

    You may have a point though, SMDH @ some dudes, now my integrity is in question LOL

  • da ThRONe

    @Elle

    WOW! This is what I read from your comment. "If you are in relationship you will be cheated on sooner or later." Is that really how you feel? If so why even bother.

    There are good people(I said good not perfect) still out there. And these people are smart enough not to jeopardize what they have for their on selfish exploits. Unfortunately it would seems that the number of people are declining but I still have hope.

  • http://spinsterstravels.wordpress.com Spinster

    QuoteMan: "we as men could have female friends without crossing the line, so to speak."

    Unfortunately, that's not been my experience and the same goes for many women I know (and, of course, don't know). Not everyone, man or woman, is willing to set boundaries, nor are they able to NOT cross them.

    Either way, I avoid all this relationship bullshit altogether now. Saves some of us a LOT of trouble. That shit is for the birds.

  • Sherell

    People can have friends of the opposite sex and it be totally platonic. I will go out on a limb and say that it often starts off with one of the two being attracted to the other. Many times nothing happens. And yes cheaters use the cover of frienship to hide their current or next conquest

    If you are entering into a committed exclusive relationship, you need to talk about boundaries, and expectations before hand.

    Many relationships fail because infidelity, no doubt. But if someone is gonna do it its just a matter of time.

  • http://spinsterstravels.wordpress.com Spinster

    Rastaman:

    "I think its sad frankly. It says true sisterhood has a long way to go and that many women truly do not respect their men and don’t think much of them truly."

    "I have to say ladies - men have really made u all believe that each other is the enemy. Game over."
    _______________

    Sad and unfortunate, and yet all too true. No finger pointing necessary; it's everyone's fault. :-| :-(

  • lola289

    just my opinion...

    I think women put TOOOOO much on getting a man.
    Its sad becuz ALOT of men ain't worth the drama.
    (Not trying to dog ANY man out!)

    We need to stop the jealousy and drama... and be real with one another.

  • TinaRae

    Its definitely an insecure thing when a woman cannot trust her man around other females. If a woman knows she is truly making her man happy and she trust him then she is good cause a man in love and happy can be somewhere and the baddest chick can walk in the room yes he will acknowledge she is pretty sexy whatever but he will not risk what he already has because his woman does it for him. There will always be someone sexier than your mate but its your mate love for you that will stand the test of time....

  • Ms P

    Interesting post...

    Do I trust my friends around my man? All day every day. My small group of friends are TRUE friends. I would trust my friends with all that I have. Three years ago I could not have said that & those people are no longer in my life. And I cannot have a real relationship with a man & not trust him. Without trust we have nothing.

    As for Johnny Depp's woman over-reacting, that is a diggerent topc from the Mo & Nia story. Johnny's woman & Angelina are not friends. But then again is Johnny that weak? Angelina cannot be trusted based on her past affairs but her relationship is with Johnny Depp. So again, is Johnny that weak? If so, she may need to reassess her relationship.

    As for Monique & Nia, they aren't real friends. Real friends trust each other & would never betray each other. And if ol girl's man is that trifling then she really has a problem.

    One last thing, Congrats to da ThRONe!! I had to read that twice. :) Love is a BEAUTIFUL thang!!

  • Elle

    @QuoteMan

    Exactly. Playing it safe this time. Trust doesn't pay off but gets abused in my experience.

    @ThRONe

    Basically that is exactly what I am saying. I do believe there are good people in the actual sense of the word out there.
    But as you said: their number is declining by the second with every deceit, heartbreak, disappointment. So unless I'd consider dating 18 year olds who haven't been burnt and ruined by the dating game, chances are the men I'll meet won't be so darn good anymore since they have experienced their fair share of relationship BS.

    Why bother? I don't know. I guess it is more so a question of adjusting to reality. If I expect it to happen and I expect the bestest of men to fuck up at one time or another, it won't catch me so off guard next time and therefore not do as much damage to me.

  • shenice85

    I can't be with someone I couldn't trust or act as if they couldn't trust me. Trust is very important in a friendship/relationship, and I believe Monique just didn't trust her friend, neither her husband. I think she is truly insecure & jealous. 9 times out of 10 if a partner has serious trust issues in a relationship, they are insecure & are probably the one that can't be trusted (infidelity).

    If you already have the mindset "I can't trust my partner, why be faithful to them." That is dangerous.

    I was in a situation a year & a half ago with a boyfriend of only 3 wks. He had serious trust issues & seemed like the "controlling type" because he had a problem with me hanging out with friends (on occasion because i can't do it often--they're all out of town), not answering his calls a certain time, and even wearing eyeshadow (my only makeup). He often accused me of cheating, which i have never done. It had to end after only 3 wks, because I can't be with some1 who was constantly down my back, stressing me out, and accusing me of something I've never done. Besides, I'm not about to let any1 control me. Come to find out he was the one actually doing the dirt. My mama always says, "The person who is heavily accusing someone of cheating is the one that is actually cheating."

  • shenice85

    About Johnny Depp's girlfriend, If I were in her shoes, I would let him do the movie. If by the slightest chance he did cheat on me with Angelina...I would beat his ass & call it a day...GOODBYE!!

    Besides I don't believe Angelina will be with Brad Pitt very long anyway. That relatiionship was doomed from the start bcuz of the BS foundation it was built on, or if any at all.

    I should be able to trust my friends along with my man. How can they be my friends if I can't trust them?

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  • http://theFreshXpress.com lovette

    I am still in a relationship with my boyfriend whom I don't trust at all.Its been hell emotionally,mentally and even physically, because we are not that intimate anymore and when we do decide to get intimate theirs really nothing there. Ive tried to leave him and or have him leave me but he wont go.Im completely misserable.I still hold on to the fact that he cheated on me yes!!!after long months he finally admitted to the fact but I wanna know her name because my brother-in-law told me it was with my half sister from my fathers side then I started suspecting that he was sleeping with my suposed biological sister as well whom I need to mention has always had her own personal issues with me(JEALOUSY).My boyfriend and I have been together for about 6years now.Im still bothered what should I do because I wanna beat the sisters ass because they knew better?

  • http://nwso.net/ NWSO

    Truthfully, knowing someone's name is besides the point. He could make up a name or tell you the real name, either doesn't matter as the trust has clearly been broken. You're thinking it nay have been a relative or sister, or the lady down the block, whoever. Again, you've clearly lost trust and if you can't trust him, why are you even with him?

    Don't get caught up in the idea of 6 years put in, if it doesn't work it doesn't work. Besides if he cheated clearly he was lacking something in the relationship and now you're lacking trust.

    Whether it was with someone you know or not, there doesn't seem to be much of a relationship to salvage. Make a decision and stick to it.

  • http://www.jewelryfromheaven.com Debbie

    First of all, why would Moniques husband be fixing anybodys fan in the first place? These people must be millionares. I dont think the incident with her even happened. But if it did, I think Monique had a right to take that stand. And as far as the friend challenging her on it, I would tell the so called friend,"fix your own damn fan!" I have had situations like this happen years ago to me. Lets just say that my ex-husband basically would have went over there, nothing happened, but regardless, the woman was flirting with him. I believe its alright to present your self as a couple. (I never had a man that would do that,but I heard some men are loyal like that) I feel like I was being disrespected, even by him going over there. And the word is that Monique doesnt care if her husband runs around on her,so why would she care if he goes over and fixs a fan or fixs something else?
    So either she does care, or she doesnt care. It cant be both ways. Only Monique knows the truth.But I love Monique, and I hope her husband is not running around on her.

  • http://nwso.net NWSO

    Uhm, that sounds a bit extreme. If I had an electrician friend that knew how to fix my ceiling fan I'd definitely call them (male or female) before searching the phone book. In fact, when my fan broke last summer I wish I had known someone that could fix it cause my apt was hella hot until I finally got a referral for an electrician. Yeah, I'm a guy, but I don't see the issue. Plus, I assume she'd be paying for his work. Like I'll write a bio for someone but since I write for a living expect my invoice. Lol.

  • Tiffany H.

    1st paragraph-Grow up.