Have Men Lost All Respect For Women?

With the outfit she had on she should have crossed the street. Truth be told the way she walked up to the group, made me think she wanted attention from the men there; just not the type of attention she got (although I cant see her face). That being said, Lyndon's point is played out. As a female I see women wearing things that I feel they should be slapped for wearing in public, but politeness and self control says that I shouldnt go about disrepecting her. I am not gonna see a girl dressed like her on the street and just shout out "WHORE!" Men who see women dressed a certain way or acting a certain way, should be man enough to respect that woman regardless. Behaving that way instead of like the "man" in this video, says more about who the man is. We need less men in the world who think its ok to disrespect and outright violate women because of something that woman does; and more men who respect women regardless because thats what real men do.

As a woman I have to agree with the other comments. I am a firm believer that you should wear whatever you want and that doesn't give anyone the right to put their hands on you without your permission but in watching the video she clearly was setting herself up. She could have crossed the street. From the looks of the video it appears that she is walking to gain attention, she even looks as if she is slowing a bit. I don't think she expected anything other than some cat calls and comments.

Of course it isn't right but respect is earned. There are better ways at being provocative than wearing a short, skin tight dress, doing a sexy walk in front of a group of men. Damn in my best sweats I will tone down my hip movement when I come across a group of men. No one can tell me that when she left he house she didn't have the "Damn I look good!" thought running through her mind. She wore the outfit to get attention unfortunately certain outfits will gain a certain type of attention.

Ladies, do you generally cross the street when you see a group of men? -No, I hold my ground.

Do you fear being assaulted for just being a woman or what you’re wearing?- No

Do you think this woman should have crossed the street or she had a right to walk where she wants?- She had a right to walk where she wanted but common sense would have said if you don't want any drama don't put yourself in the situation.

Do you think she should have fought back or was she right to have walked away?- Walk away, if she had done more I think more harm would have been done.

What would you have done had this happened to you?- It wouldn't have because I wouldn't have been wearing that outfit. Plain and simple. Now if I had been wearing pants and top and my top got pulled down I would have walked away, called the cops from a safe distance.

As an expatriate, I get to view things in a different place with a different lens. In my current location, it's extremely rare for men to even approach a woman in the street. Although that in itself is fraught with challenges, I prefer it a lot more than/to the extreme aggressiveness displayed back home. (When I say extreme aggressiveness, I mean that IN GENERAL compared to my current location, not every single individual man.) Despite the politeness, I still walk across the street when I see ANY group of boys/men. I've had enough experience with harassment (1 incident is more than enough) to favor protecting myself above all. It's a damn shame but it has to be done.

I won't even bother addressing the attire issue. It's too sticky & too grey an issue to touch and I don't feel like being bothered with internet arguments. :-/ I'll just say that there is NO excuse for violence against women in relation to attire.

I am so disappointed to see so many of you blaming the victim here. Nothing this woman did gave these men an invitation to assault her. Period. End of story.

Men have not lost all respect for women!
Your premise is incorrect, any male who stands around passively while a female or anyone is being victimized is no Man. Punks have no respect for anyone or anything they believe they have at a disadvantage.

The one thing missing from this whole video is context. Who this "woman" is or why she felt the need to waltz through a throng of men, skimpily dressed is as important as what occured on video. Because this past weekend, I saw several young girls, similarly dressed, waltz into a crowd. The only reason I could determine for being that skimpily dressed is a thrust for undue attention, nothing else. The common phrase thrown around in response to them was "who these ho's". I guess in their mind even that attention was worth it.

I have had occasion to make the acquinatance of women who have this mindset and they will always complain and worry about all the negative attention their skimpy skin tight attires attracts. They will express that it makes them fearful and they have feelings of being unsafe because inevitably some fool will put their hands on them. But that is never enough to deter them to dress more modestly because they need that attention more than anything else. At first you are symapthetic, you try to give advice but you come to realize how sad they are and their bodies is the only thing they believe they can offer the world.

Both those types individuals are equally damaged, the skimpily dressed young woman who feels the need to waltz through a group of men and the man who feels the need to assault her. The mindset on display is not unusual as we would be led to beleive...that is why in middle eastern cultures the women are covered up and not allowed to walk the streets unescorted. Because the belief is that men will be tempted and if they have no access to the women they cannot be tempted.

In our more "enlightened" culture we of course disagree but incidents like these affirms what those other culture believe to be true. The aspect that is not as widely discussed is that after that woman is assaulted, then her male relatives will have to respond violently to uphold her and his family honor and thus begin the cycle of violence and retribution. They were afterall "disrespected".

So NWSO if we can look beyond the isolation of the video incident and think about the social effects of such incidences then we can begin a conversation about how we truly feel about women globally. Or we can take this as proof that we have not evolved too far from our cave dwelling ancestors, still just beast.

First of all those men were a bunch of low class niggas. I think as a whole all of them need to be wiped out of existence as they serve no purpose in this world. They do absolutely nothing but cause hate and discontent. What if she had friends and brought them back? And they had guns...? How many people would've been killed because he wanted to act an ass? As for the woman, no she did not deserved to be touched in any way but you can't put yourself in situations that can cause you a harm. Whether it's your dress, you hanging in the wrong neighborhood, all of that. Don't invite trouble. I don't like walking past any group of men white, black, Hispanic. I don't trust any of them.

That lady would never have hit the floor if me or one of my friends/brothers had been there. No need to be confrontational. Just go over and escort her to where she has to go. And by the way those arent men---those are boys and the elementary school playground.
Also, she didnt ask for anything---she should be able to wear whatever she wants to wear and go where she wants to without being assaulted. Hell back in the day women wore mini-skirts, hot pants, tight sweaters, hoop earrings and platforms and we didnt think to attack them. All we had to do was respectfully speak. Its a shame our younger ladies will never have that experience and will have to live in fear.
Perhaps if brothers were in fear of going certain places wearing tims and baggys without getting attacked they would put that negative energy into doing something positive for the community. I will step down from my soapbox now.

No one is placing blame solely on one side, at least I'm not. But accountability plays a role on BOTH sides. You aren't responsible for the actions of others only the actions of yourself. And how you carry yourself in any situation is an action. Granted in a perfect world people would be able to walk down the street buck naked...but guess what we don't in in Perfectville...People are assholes, shit will happen whether or not you put yourself in bad situations. There are times when you have a choice to attempt to control a bit of a situation.

All I'm saying is when she left her house she made a choice, when she walked towards the men she made a choice. Once they put their hands on her her choices pretty much disappeared.

I'm only speaking from a woman's point of view. I have the right to wear what I want and do what I want...but I have put myself KNOWINGLY in bad situations, made choices that put me in harms way. I am accountable for my actions. She should be held accountable to.

I'm not believing the tone of these comments. To leap straight to the issue of what she might have done to protect herself passes over in total silence why she needs to protect herself in the first place. These guys just take it for granted that she's their rightful prey, a walking rapability. Where on earth do they get the idea that ANYbody is theirs to do with as they like? And what on earth does her dress, or lack of it, have to do with that?

for ha-has, let's just say she had been in the same outfit and walking down Wall Street past a group of businessmen. do you think anyone there would've done the same? i think not. hence it's not what she was wearing or the block she chose to walk down. the issue with this clip is the men.

I am disgusted by all of the comments here.

Everyone here is blaming the woman for being attacked.

I don't understand why women are expected to change their behavior to keep men from attacking us like wild animals.

I think the comments here also show that most people would agree that men are ill behaved and that as women we must watch out because apparently men have the right to act so poorly and project their sexual aggression onto women.

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These are some really generalizing comments. Speaking for Rastaman and myself, neither of us two said ANYthing about the incident being the woman's fault, nor did we condone those BOYS's behavior at any point in our comments. So please for the love of god, TRY to say "MOST of you" instead of "all of you", "SOME of you" instead of "everyone".

Sorry Anslem (you know why). This is a great post besides that. Gonna post it on Twitter for you.

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When I saw some of the comments to this article, I was furious. Some of these comments just scream ignorant, stupid, and just clearly shows what kind of person you are. I am a young lady who grew up with a father. My family grew up in the church, so I was never a person to dress in tights and short clothing. My father, who I HIGHLY respect, with my mother, raised my siblings and me very well from day one, always taught us to respect ourselves. He also believed that NO MATTER what a woman wears, NO MAN HAS THE RIGHT TO TOUCH HER. He felt that a woman should be able to walk down the street naked (whether she looking for attention or she just plain out stupid) NO MAN HAS THE RIGHT TO PUT HIS HANDS ON HER. And he is ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

I don’t want to hear anything about respect is earned when it comes to something like a man putting his hands on a woman because of what she wears. OH PLEASE!!!!! What makes ANY MAN feels he has the right to touch a woman because he feels what she is wearing is sexy…..that is straight NONSENSE. Would any man like it if a woman comes up to him and hit him a hard slap because she didn’t like what he said….NOOO, so what makes a man feel he can put his hands on a woman because of what she is wearing?

No she should not have to cross the street, because it is her right to walk where ever the heck she wants to walk. And so if she is looking for attention; let her give you the okay to put your hands on her, not you take it upon yourself and feel you have some right to touch her…….YOU DON’T!!!!!!

Honestly, if a man (or woman) is that disrespectful and just plain out stupid, it wouldn’t matter what you wear. If you cross their path, they are going to mess with you, just because they want to show themselves in front of their crowd of friends. PATHETIC!!!!!! They are the ones that should be getting something done to them because they are looking for just as much attention from their friends by doing that nonsense, as the girl wearing the tight dress looking for attention from the men.

The reality of it is, most men who feel they have some kind of right to put their hands on a woman, mostly take it to a next level. They don’t stop there. Next step for them is not only lifting up women dresses, but touching them in their genital area or breasts, until that doesn’t do it for him anymore and he moves on to higher and higher levels of disrespecting and evading a woman’s body and personal space.

Any way you put it, a man (and woman) should keep their damn hands to themselves no matter what the situation might be. NO……I WILL “NEVER” EXCUSE A MAN FOR PUTTING HIS HANDS ON A WOMAN BECAUSE HE “FEELS” SHE NEEDS TO BE DISRESPECTED.

This really is sad. I would have most definitely helped her up and tried to get her out of there. I have heard of so many people in New Orleans being shot (and sometimes killed) for trying to check fools like these guys. It makes it tough to want to do the right thing. Ignorance like this cant be reasoned with. So for me to intervene I would either be prepared to kill or be killed.

I am truly appalled at the comments by my aforementioned peers of both genders. Regardless of what the young lady had on or how she behaved is irrelevant to the blatant disrespect displayed those individuals that want to be called men. If I decide to walk out of my house stark naked I still don't deserve to have my personal space invaded simply b/c I am naked. And for those that say "she should have just crossed the street" NO wrong answer those grown boys should have just kept their hands to themselves. The next time the 5oclock news reports that a young black male was assaulted by your local police write it off that he deserved it b/c of his choice in attire.

The video was sad but very common. It looks like it took place in Miami during a holiday weekend. I have been there & done that and knew better than to walk through a group of dudes scantily clad. For her own good & safety, she should've known that those dudes would've tried to touch her no matter WHAT she had on BUT in the very beginning of the video, it seemed as though she wanted that type of attention. With that being said, they had NO RIGHT to cause her bodily harm but some ppl have to learn lessons from experience. TRUST & BELIEVE, she won't EVER walk through a group of dudes AGAIN!

Rights.....
1) I have a RIGHT to walk wherever the hell i want
2) I have a RIGHT to wear whatever the hell i want
3) I have a RIGHT to defend myself if one steps incorrectly
Reactions....
1) Walking through a crowd of black men, I should not have to be fearful of my life or safety. Despite your hang-ups or issues...as a black man please set aside your issues and just do whats right by no remarks, no touching, just continue on with your conversation. If you want to have conversations with the young lady or with anyone....approach her or them how you want others to approach your mother or female family members. (tip...Ladies when you walk through a crowd of men or just passing a man on the street, look them in the face and eyes. This shows confidence and one is less likely to attack and you will be able to recount how they look if needed)

2) Now as a black female, I KNOW dressing a certain way will get certain reactions. Therefore, just be prepared for those reactions!

3) If you wish to touch me inappropriately, please be prepared for a physical altercation (as law enforcement my guard is ALWAYS up....if I can just get it to come down when I date....lol)

The bottom line people is times have changed and I can't expect everyone to have been raised in the way which I was. I wish I can make every black man realize that they are the protectors, lovers, guardians of precious cargo...black women! I wish I can make every black woman realize that our character and mental physique has more power to capture a black man's (or any man) attention than dressing in tight revealing clothing. Hell we can sit here all day and argue who's right or wrong in this situation...but my concern is with safety and what I can do or advise my fellow black women (hell all women) to do on their rights, possible reactions to one’s actions, and how YOU can deteriorate any unwanted gestures (whether it’s by how you dress or your location). So ladies...you can make sure one person protect and respect you...YOURSELF!!! Good topic NWSO!

- A.D.

This SAME stuff happens to white women when walking by a group of drunk white boys..

@Ayanna

You are focusing on the wrong thing. Clearly it's not here fault ,but it still happened and she knew when she got dressed things like this happens. As a person you have to take responsibilty for your own safety. Should you have to no ,but you should. All she can control is what she wears, where she goes, and who she goes with. And some of those choices she made were bad ones.

I agree Throne!!

@Ronnie6676

I'm not saying its ok, especially since I know EXACTLY how no matter what if a man wants to assault a woman he will. Whether she is a friend of his brothers, whether she is at the funeral of his cousin, whether she is high and drunk because she wants to numb her pain...I know that nothing will stop an assault from happening EXCEPT that person committing the assault. But until there is a way to control the actions of others we as women have to take responsibility for our own actions or at least own up to making a bad judgment call.

I'm all for looking good at the club but she wore the outfit to attract attention and she got attention...it just wasn't the type of attention she wanted.

I'm appalled by the entire video.

In a perfect world, yes, I can wear whatever I want, walk wherever I want and do whatever i want and no one should touch me.

But the world isn't perfect so let's get real and stop acting like it *should* be when we know it isn't and it won't be.

Yes, as a woman you can be assaulted doing anything wearing anything but let's not pretend that is what was going on here. Would you let a child walk through that group of men in a skirt and halter? No? Why? For the same reason an adult woman should not.

As women, we should not play with fire.

I AM NOT SAYING SHE ASKED FOR IT but what I am saying is that we shouldn't play around in situations we know are dangerous.

She did not deserve what happened to her. And no man should ever assault a woman in such a way. And women really need to be far more careful when walking alone, especially at night.

Well well well.

Some guy who sees this and decides to stand up for her may get the shit kicked out of him or even worse - get stabbed. Has happened in the UK a number of times - random good Samaritan gets beaten to death defending some chick from her abusive boyfriend she should have left a while back, and so on.

Why a woman dressed in such an idiotic outfit walk through such a rough looking area is beyond me. I'd definitely say she was asking - no, BEGGING for it, and it's shameful that men would act that way but maybe she should get some fucking common sense next time she's at the 99c store.

Sociopaths? Newsflash... MANY blacks are sociopathic. Probably more than half. You know that guy that made all those promises and never kept em- sociopath. That woman that sleeps around and can't be faithful- sociopath. Most of the guys in jail- sociopath.

You cant give the label to just black men that act savagely when their counterparts come from the same cruel evironment. Lying, deception, manipulation, denial, & entitlement are not just traits of the crooked politition- it pretty much summarizes the character of millions of black folk. So please, let's not label because it counter productive. Let's deal with the behavior. We may actually get somewhere.

The blame IS ONE ONE SIDE and one only. The attacker's side PERIOD.

The fact that she should have expected to be disrepected/attacked at some point that evening just means that every woman should be aware of the large number of waste of sperm walking around and therefore either try to be as discret as possible or be ready to protect themselves.

Now I will agree that she should have expected such creatures to be around since I have given up on human race and just expect them to behave like they always did : Be on their worst behavior.

Accountable? How is that a crime? Like of taste hell yes, lack of judgement certainly but she did not create this situation.

Such people as these disgusting individual are up to no good and if they don't find an easy situation like this one to act on their violent tendancies they will create one.

My brothers and friends would never attack a woman even if she was walking by NACKED!! So the problem must be with those people and not the woman.

WHY SHOULD WE EVER I MEAN EVER EXCUSE IN ANY WAY ANY TIME OF VIOLENCE AGAISNT ANYONE...WHY?

My apologies for all the spelling errors. I am really mad as hell...and english not being my first language...well

An advice to all the exhibitionnist ladies out there...US constitution's second Amendment.

I am black MrHughes. I call things the way I see it. And yes many of us ARE indeed sociopaths. You apparently know the making and characteristics of a sociopath/ psychopath. So many blacks fit the descript to a T. You know this. And ironically the problem starts and ends with one person- The Man.

He leaves the family. He preys on our young women. He has multiple lovers at one time. He sets societal standards. He has the nerve to judge. He cheats. He scorns. He's present at the strip club. YET.... he wants a good & faithful woman. This after corrupting so many. The audacity of this primal thinking is the essence of Narcissistic and sociopathic.

You really don't want that. Be honest. Everbody wants to be noticed. Im sure you'd prefer positive attention from a man you find engaging. You sound like youre speaking out of anger and that's understandable.

And I must add, if your gonna walk boldly (as you proclaim) in the face of danger please be prepared for the consequences. Im not letting wrong off the hook, but you have to make wise and responsible decisions even though you have "rights".

That's still not what a sociopath is. I can call a Hippopotamus a car, but that doesn't mean I can drive a Hippopotamus down to the grocery store for a gallon of milk. What is seen in this video is a statement of all men, not just black ones. Otherwise, we wouldn't see the plethora of sexual assaults and date rapes across all racial lines. Now, it sounds like you are saying black men are sociopathic. There a lot of black men out there doing things the right way. Some don't, but all the examples you mention are true of all men. Black men don't set societal standards. All types of men cheat. Strip clubs aren't just in black neighborhoods and attended by blacks. Lots of men want a good and faithful woman after corupting many. These are issues of manhood, masculinity, and men's beliefs and attitudes about women and sex. Those play out with how we as men perpetuate violence against women. Claiming sociopathy is like saying that this is a mental health issue. Violence against women is NOT a mental health issue.

Men do set what is deemed acceptable behavior by women. Men set unrealistic expectations of the very women they victimize. Hence the anger and rebellion by so many women.

Of course there are many black men handlin their bizness, but that's not who's in this vid.

And Mr Hughes!!!! If you don't think violence against women is a mental health issue, then rapist, serial killers, and murders just have "momentary" brain farts. The painful truth is that all of these behaviors have origins, whether we want to face it or not. And I know intimately that the lack of a positive father figure is the root to most, if not all mental health issues (barring genetic disfunction). And in the black community we have it rampant. The minute we face the truth of what our fathers did and don't to and are willing to discuss it without anger and resentment, we will learn what family and civility is. Until then we will mask our insanity with financial success and academic progress. Neither have any influence on healthy interpersonal relationships.

She was already scarred. Her dress was lifted twice and she didnt flinch. SHe's probably been through this before. She's probably numb to it. Sad but true.

@ Shannon. Youre right that many men objectify women. SOOO many reasons why it's done. But also, women do it too. Everytime you make specific demands of what you want your man to look, smell and dress like you're objectifying. These things have nothing to do with WHO the man is and here is why so many of us go into unhealthy relationships, only to later find out he or she is/ was scum.

Objectification is not requesting that someone dress, smell, or look a certain way. Making a rational request that someone present themselves a particular way because you find that attractive is something we have all been socialized to do. That's different than treating someone like an object for your sexual desire without their consent. That's objectification! The video is an example of objectification.

Mr Hughes, you said that if my statements were true "that there would be a plethora of mentally ill men out there". That is EXACTLY the case. Exactly. There are many mentally ill women and men out there. And to your statistical references- it will never reflect how we as blacks are impacted by troubled development because BLACK MEN do go the doctor, let alone a mental health professional.

What your talking about is "Sexual Objectification". And I do believe that's what Shannon was talking about too. This is actually understood by me. What I was getting at was how we set standards that in no way shape or form determine what or who a person is.

One of the things that Ive always admired about white people is that they could be multi billionaire's and you'd never know it by the way they dress or what they drive. These types of white folk dont try to perpetuate status by superficial things. This is what so many people are guilty of doing.

That was my point

Amen to Flyness

It's amazing to me that anyone would ever say anything to even allude to the fact that what she's wearing justifies the actions of the man in the video. It's like saying a girl deserved to be raped because she was dressed in a provocative manner. Where is the accountability of the man? It's so barbaric and reminds me of the middle ages and even today when women are being stoned for adultery. HELLOOOOOO did she force the man into having sex with her. I'm an African woman. I dress conservatively especially compared to my friends (some are african also). But I would never condemn anyone for the way they dressed. And no one deserves to be treated the way this woman was treated regardless of what she's wearing. I would never approach a group of men (especially african american) of more than 3 because I am very afraid. And can you blame me? Especially after viewing the above video.

this should have been below tarana's comment, lol!

But u can't totally absole old girl on KNOWINGLY walking by some roughnecks...when has a woman ever walked by some men and not have something said...it's not an excuse ...if I live in a blood neighborhood and I walk by some bloods wearing all blue... I understand hats gonna happen...it's not fair or right but game recognize game ...c'mon now

Would I expect anything better from some low pants wearing, boxer exposed, nothing better to do but hang around on the corner low lifes? No I wouldn't. If I see a group like this in my path, I am crossing the street, with a mean mug and eyes focused elsewhere. It is so sad this woman got assaulted like she did. But she walked into a pack of wild dogs, just waiting for their next victim. Let's face it...she has the right to wear or not wear what she likes, but with her walking straight into them(doesn't matter what she was wearing), is like me as a black person walking into a KKK rally.

I have given up and have no respect for men as seen in the video. They are disrespectful, have no goals in life and are a waste of human life. I don't care what their story is. At a certain age, you know right from wrong. They bully anyone who is weaker to feel better about themselves. I have no tolerance for anyone who abuse someone else. Whether you be a man or a woman. It just shows that you are a punk.

It is what it is..

I wonder if the women on here preaching "what she wore didn't warrant the exposure she got" were in the same environment & saw what went on, would you all have been as compassionate as you are on here OR would ya'll have said "that chick got what she deserved.. Dress like a hoe, act like a hoe, get treated like a hoe".. Things that make you go HMMMMMMMMMM...

COME ON LETS KEEP IT REAL .....I WOULDNT HAVE WORE ANYTHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN WEARING ALL MY CLOTHES AND LEAVING WHAT IS UNDERNEATH PRIVATE....I AM FOR SURE NOT JUDGING HER....BUT ITS SAD REALLY BECAUSE HER AND ALL THOSE MEN ARE GONNA HAVE TO ANSWER TO OUR FATHER.........SO YALL DONT FORGET ABOUT KARMA WHILE YALL MAKING ALL THESE COMMENTS BECAUSE ITS REAL ......

OBVIOUSLY she was asking for it. Why is she wearing a dress like that ??? obviously for a attention! She shoulve crossed the street or something. It was freaked up w wht they did. But she couldve avoided it!

i'm wont read the other comments, i'll just comment:
this is kinda like ur post a lil while ago with the picture, and ur perception of what the picture was all about ( woman and child); nothing that happened to this female is justified for any reason, however, she must take responsibility, and i mean full responsibility, not that she was asking for it, but ask urself, what was my part, what could i have done differently

She tried to pad her stats(her self esteem)in a 4th Qtr blowout - I'm sure she was gettin attention all night - and it backfired horribly. She twisted her ankle jackin up that last 3. Get yo ass outta here and go put some clothes on!...Grandma Steez

I SO agree with Malia, I think women should cover up, it's like people complaining they've been burgled because they put all their valuables by the window sill. JUST DON'T DO IT, is it worth the danger?? Just because you have rights doesn't mean you're invincible, people will still break into your house because you didn't prepare for it, same as being molested. There are a lot of sick people out there!! I was just watching youtube and I've recently found out that many people use it for masturbation - and I'm not talking about those booty-dancing videos but what about weight loss videos or someone just singing a song.

Also I even found some channel where secret recordings of women's asses in tight jeans were being uploaded. Not saying if you behave a certain way that you'll get a certain reaction, but the goal is to try and minimise the risk as much as possible.

Keep walkin with that chip on your shoulders ladies instead of makin the smart decision...ha. There's people that don't care. It's not losing, it's not submitting, it's not backing down, it's called making a smart decision. Pick your battles. You think us dudes don't pick our battles - you think there aint a dude on this planet that has never crossed the street away from a group of people just in case because he was rollin dolo. Everybody don't got sense, so sometimes u gotta account for that one stupid ass person.

Is it worth it?...Showing a lil more skin to be the baddest bitch out that night? When something less revealing might have(or not)prevented that situation.

Is crossing the street and avoiding a potential situation too much to ask?

Pick your battles. Swallow your pride sometimes.

Looking at all this victim blaming hurts my heart. I understand many men and women wanting to point out the things that the young woman could have "done" to avoid this situation because it helps reinforce for yourself that it wouldn't or couldn't happen to you. But responding to an incident of assault with how the victim could have prevented it seems like a mentality of defense. What I mean is everything one does must be for survival, not living. That you expect bad things to always happen, people will always take advantage of you and no one is to be trusted. You can survive with that mentality but I doubt you'll live much.

As sad is it is for me to say this, but yes what we viewed in the video is a harsh reality that some men have little or no respect for women. I could argue that the media generation and the "use what you got to get what you want" mentality has allowed some women to degrade their selves to the point where the vast majority of women get some form of disrespect. I'm not saying that all women in this generation are the problem, and I'm not saying that hip-hop is the problem, but I am saying that the world that we live in is a sad one. But it is not just women that are getting disrespected, the mere fact is that men like the ones portrayed in the video is why I rock my sweat paints and t-shirts all the time!

@ Veronica,
I agree! Last time I checked, it was free for anyone to walk down the street! If this was the other way around and a woman was aggressivly pulling on a man then the comments would be different, and the victum wouldn't be the one with all the blame!

OMG! Cant believe i missed out on this yest....WTF is wrong with people talking about it is the woman's fault? HELL NO ITS DEM FOOLS ON THE STREET! This is so disgusting! Why didnt anyone do anything? Atleast call the cops on the dudes if you are too scared to say something. I just cannot get over this crap. The kids coming up, they are going to have problems....we think America is down bad now....just wait.

@Preach
I'm not sure to take you seriously or not seeing you're a "comedian" and everything. What I will say is, yes reality is reality and then there are extremes. What those boys did is an extreme. Would you have done that? Would you have stopped them? Or would you have whipped out your camera and made it viral in minutes? No, you wouldn't have done it. Because I'm assuming you know better. But I doubt you'd have stopped it either, because afterall that's the reality YOU live in.
There was a news story awhile ago about a girl being raped at a party. Instead of stopping it, many people walked by, took pictures, even pointed and laughed, but no one stopped to help her. That is two skips and a jump away from what that video shows.
A wise man once said the opposite of love is not hate, but indifference, and seeing how you and many others respond, I understand exactly why that is.

@ Tess...pleas edon't make any assumption of what I would or would not do... where i am from and how i was raised instilled in me the don't talk about it ..be about it mentality. I can stay online and spout some e-thug, super savior crap about what I would've done but i won't...My point is that the world is as equally beautiful as it is deplorable. For there to be beauty there must be someting to be recognized as ugly. In the clip is an example of the ugliness in the world...now all the pseudo-philosphical, socio-political comentary in the world will not rewind time back to stop and educate those ion the situation. All we can do is go forward. I am not a believer in the victim mentality nor do I sit back on my comp and judge those I've never conversed with. Wrong is Wrong..right is right...
just as stupid is stupi and avoidable is avoidable...
As much as we want to hear stories of "brave and courageous" stepping in to save the day..we don't because most folks realize having your family stare at you in a casket for a situation you didn't create is not courageous...its idiotic... There are times to be brave and times to let people burn their hands on the stove to learn not to touch something thats hot.... Not being indifferent..just saying what I see

Funny how men are always called, dogs, dawg, and other negative names, and women love to brag about their independence, how they dont need man or a trifling azz man for anything.......

now some boys harassed or assaulted a female, and all pf a sudden the world wants the dogs, dawgs, trifling azz men to come to their rescue ?

LOL

be careful what you ask for women

also, yeah the "dogs" should all of a sudden become MEN and come to her rescue, risk getting shot or stabbed by the gang of perverted boys, risk their safety and life for a stranger ?

yeah yeah, wheres Ms INDEPENDENT ?

You noticed that too. She in fact seems to walk towards the dude who holds her back after the dude initially disrespects her. I wish I could see the whole tape.

If you can actually can condone assaulting anyone without any provocation, wow that's a pretty decrepit mind state to live in.

....and Parts 4 to 6 Here:

Dreamworlds Part 4

Dreamworlds Part 5

Dreamworlds Part 6

Undoubtedly, what this fool did was awful; a shameful display by a fool with no home training or manners. In all honesty, I’ve no issue with how she is dressed but her lack of good judgement. Granted, she has the right to wear whatever she wants; go wherever she wants. However, not to curtail her freedom, but with freedom comes responsibility, meaning we all have to be cognizant of our surroundings. And by we, I mean men and women alike. Even as a dude, if I was to use an ATM in an unfamiliar neighborhood, with a crowd that deep it’d be illogical to proceed. It’s not smart to risk your safety in the name of freedom or pride.

To answer the question, has men lost all respect for women, I’d say NO. I’m a mama’s boy, so I always say: a man has my respect to gain; a woman has my respect to lose.

The outfit was totally outrageous. But a crime is a crime. They can't touch her. And she may not be smart enough to know she can't do that: She may be young, or just think rape can't happen in her case. Still a crime is a crime, they can not touch or detain her.

Thank you Duchess. I peep that to if you watch carefully as soon as the girl gets near the crowd of boys she does a twist of the body n gets closer, she was looking 4 something she just didn't think it would get that far. Come on now walking by a bunch of dudes with that on, plus mind u by yourself. I live and Miami and I never saw something like that in my life but maybe it's because every girl that I've seen in a situation like that knows better to cross the street. The sad thing is what if no1 was there but the crowd of boyz and the girl, it would have been another story that girl should Thank God that people were around... If u ask me would I have stop it no. 4 two reasons. 1 The girl knew better. 2 If someone is brave enough to do that on camera. I don't what his about n trust when I say I'm not losing my life for no dumbass Female.

I agree!! As soon as my curves started developing, even as young as I was I was getting attention, it meant that I had to dress down, long tops etc, 'til this day I never show my cleavage. I'm a little sick of it at times!!

She needs to be careful about how she presents herself around men of the caliber. This seems like a low income area & the men there are known to be thirsty (excessively hungry for sex & unable to control it).  So when she walked around the crowd, I personally think either she kind of likes the ego boost from walking around in a skimpy dress or she is off somewhere & that is the only direction. 

The men can't be excused b/c what they did was quite in appropriate, but women can't dress in hoish uniforms in areas like that & expect men of that sort to not do something excessive.