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Would You Loan an Ex Money? (Oh, and Toss His Salad)

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Dear NWSO,

I was dating a guy for three years. We had great sex and fun times but he had a few kids and I have none. Every time we would break up he’d chase me down crying like a baby for me to come back to him. He even kissed the ground for me to stay with him but the last time we ended it was through text. I don’t know, for us to end it over text is just crazy to me.

It’s been six months and I still think about him. I didn't get closure and I think that why I think about him. But, ever since we did end it things are going good in my life. I even came into some money and I thought about helping him out. Am I crazy for thinking that?

When we did have sex he wanted me to give him head while I stuck my finger in his ass. He even let me stick my toy in his ass. But, he didn't like it though he told me to TAKE IT OUT because it was too much. Do you think he was gay? He told me to never tell anybody about that part of our sex life but I did tell my BFF; she thinks he’s gay but in the closet. Have I been fucking a gay guy all this time and didn't know it? I heard that men love getting head while you stick a finger in the ass. Is that true for all men or sign of a gay man? Help!

Dear Hopeless Romantic

Thanks for an interesting letter. In regards to the breaking up and moving on, what I noticed is the first thing you mentioned when describing the relationship was "we had great sex and fun times." There was no mention of how y'all treated each other, what y'all spoke about, shared goals or anything indicative of a greater connection other than "great sex and fun times." Not saying there wasn't any substance in your relationship, but it's interesting that those were the first and only words you used to describe a relationship that lasted three years off and on. Just something to take note of and to reflect on.

anal sex guide with hands on tree holeAlso, I'm not sure as to why y'all broke up so many times over the years (you only mentioned he had kids but it wasn’t clear if that was the cause of your issues) but depending on what the issue was and how serious it was for y'all it would determine whether you guys are better off apart in my eyes. Given that there was more than one split, though, I'll assume it was a perpetual issue(s) that just didn't work in the long run.

As for the text breakup, it's kinda lame but as someone who also had an on again/off again relationship that lasted years, sometimes it's a simple thing that finally becomes your final straw. While the exchange on text may or may not have been that big of an issue in the grand scheme of things but sometimes you just come to the realization that you just can't do it anymore. In my case, the argument that finally ended it was her walking in the house with wet shoes. It sounds silly in retrospect but the breakup was building over five years and that was the spark to finally walk away for good.

Closure depends on the person. If you feel there's some unresolved matters to be addressed then handle that but stick to your guns and just say what you have to say and cut ties. Otherwise you'll just find yourself back in the same cycle again and if that isn't what you need in your life then recognize that and make changes to weed out the dead weight. You yourself say that your life is better since the final breakup; so why back track? Sounds like you're just asking for punishment in the name of "closure."

As for the gay stuff, does it really matter? From what it sounds like you guys are finally over and whether he was or wasn't you enjoyed the sex while you were intimate. Couples experiment and they say prostate stimulation is supposed to be pleasurable for guys. However, most are too wrapped up in machismo to explore it. Just because he was willing to try that with you may raise an eyebrow but he could have just been comfortable enough with himself and you to give it a try.

You also said he didn't even like it so if he couldn't handle a toy I doubt he'd want the real thing. But who knows. I can't speak for every man but I'll pass on a finger in my ass but if we’re going to be completely honest my ex and I did exchange salad tosses back in college. Did that make me gay? Nope, we were just experimenting in pleasuring each other and came across that maneuver before either of us knew there was a nickname for it (we called it cookies & cream). You live and you learn.

Oh, and if you want to loan ol' boy some money it's really your call but I wouldn’t advise it. Does he really need it? Can you afford it? Do you see this being yet another thing to tie y'all together again? Just some things to think about as you don't owe an ex anything unless it's genuinely from the goodness of your heart.

Good luck

Have you ever had an on-again/off-again relationship? How did you finally get the cycle to stop? Do you think if the first think a person mentions about a relationship is superficial or sexual that that’s all the relationship was about? Would you need closure if the breakup happened over text? Have you ever ended a relationship over something really simple? Was it just the final straw in a long line of issues/ Would you loan an ex money? Do you think the anal play they had makes this guy gay? Or should couples be open to experiment in the bedroom? Has tossing salad ever been on your sexual menu? What advice would you give this reader?

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  • http://irunthroughbabymommas.blogspot.com @WilliamHisdope

    This is was interesting. I agree totally with the answer, it can be pleasurable for a man, and if he was comfortable with her to tell her what he like she must was special lol.

    Irunthroughbabymommas.blogspot.com

  • Older & Wiser

    No salad tossing, ever!

  • Ursula

    I don't see anything wrong with prostate play; however, I dont think thats what I'm willing to try with my guy.

  • Enid Wilson

    Hmm, very deep! Loaning money, salad and gay, quite beyond me.

    Chemical Fusion

  • QuoteMan

    GTFOH.........if it's not colonoscopy, no finger or anything for that matter should be goin up in no straight dude's ass. Under no circumstance should a straight dude find pleasure in anything involvin his butthole. Some of ya women need to stop givin these dudes excuses, or as often the case, y'all will be the last ones to find out what he's been up to....smdh

  • OSHH

    This brawd needs to keep it moving, come to terms with the fact this ain't the dude for you, all other issues aside, and that's all the closure you need. Uncleave the dead(being that relationship) and move on with your life.

  • http://teeziesjournal.blogspot.com/ Teezie

    Yes I was in an on again/off again relationship for about 6 years. I finally decided that for me to be truly happy I had to move on to someone else. And I have been 100% happy ever since. You only get closure if you want closure regardless of the breakup method. I would never loan an ex money. And as far as anal play. The only guys I know who let you do more than a finger are "suspious" gay.

  • justme

    Hell no, No anal action and if you are an ex, you are an ex for a reason so why would I loan (give) you money. If you putting things in his ass, what's the difference in him allowing John Doe to be in his ass?

  • c0c0puffz

    There is no way I am sticking my fingers in his ass, using my toys on his ass, or licking his ass and definitely not lending him money. He will have to hop on his own finger and get off. That shit is too nasty. Literally.

  • da ThRONe

    First the money. She wasn't very descriptive about her Ex's character so as of now only she can really judge whether loaning old dude money is a good idea.

    As far as closure if she is comfortable with discussing the matter with her Ex and he wants to have the same discussion then in my opinion that's not a bad idea.

    As far as the gay stuff is concern. I don't think any guy is gay unless he wants to have sex with another guy. Being a freak isn't necessarily gay IMO. Being a person who had his salad tossed before it really felt good. Having my own "macho" issues when she would suggest sticking a finger up there I wasn't having it. I can't paint somebody as gay because they don't have that same "macho" issues behind close doors as I did.

  • http://realestdudeintheroom.com SM

    If he let you put a toy in his ass, you can assume him to be gay. I don't know where the gay line is but a toy in the ass is way beyond it. I've had women say they want to put a finger in, or milk the prostate and I just can wrap my head around that. I will try almost anything that doesn't involve my anus, pain or male-male contact (high fives, not included).

    Nothing wrong with wanting to help an ex out. It's cool that you can still be on that level with someone who was important in your life.

    So in summary, I don't see anything wrong with you helping your gay ex-boyfriend out with a short term loan.

    SM
    realestdudeintheroom.com

  • Lola

    I have been in one of those on again off again relationships that lasted 8 years. I gave him money but never tossed his salad. I just assumed it was my fault because I stayed even when he got locked up.

  • http://whatsonmymind09.blogspot.com Marcia H.

    Have you ever had an on-again/off-again relationship?
    It wasn't a "relationship" but we did go back and forth with feelings and sex. Mainly me having feelings and him wanting sex...

    How did you finally get the cycle to stop?
    Ummmmm it took him finally getting into a relationship that was my AHA moment and I ended it all.

    Do you think if the first think a person mentions about a relationship is superficial or sexual that that’s all the relationship was about? ABSOULUTELY! You must believe people when they show you who they are the first time.

    Would you need closure if the breakup happened over text?
    Know me... yes.

    Do you think the anal play they had makes this guy gay?
    No.. interesting and incredibly weird.. yes!

    Or should couples be open to experiment in the bedroom?
    What you do in your bedroom is you and the person(s)that's in there with you.

    Oh and I would never lend an ex money and my advice to ol' girl... Let it go and and run!

  • R.e.D

    This is narrow thinking Quoteman. How can you knock something u haven't or have refused to try?

  • http://thenextthingiknew.com agftmw

    There are SO many things going on with this letter...
    Did he ask for a loan? If not, seems like this is just another way for him to be tied to her. The anal play; I have "tossed and been tossed" and that shit was hot. He liked it too, not something to do with just anyone, and only after cleaning thoroughly. The toys? He is gay. The on again/off again.. let him go, and be done with it. No need for closure, seems you got that via a text. Childish, but closure none the less.

    thenextthingiknew.com

  • http://ladyngo.blogspot.com Lady Ngo

    I've had an on-again/off-again relationship. What finally put an end to it (so far at least) is space and time apart...and being fed up with the situation. I haven't seen or spoken to him in almost a year. I don't contact him and he hasn't contacted me.
    As far as anal play...heck nah. If my dude wants me to stick anything in his a$$, its over! And toss his salad??? WTF, hayle naw! Not even anywhere near being an option

  • Atselec

    This letter is just too much

  • krystllyght

    I like to think I'd be mature enough to give an ex a loan but only if he asked for it. I'm no salad tosser. I have a tiny, stumpy tongue. If I were to try my whole face would be in there. Not gonna happen. My booski isn't into that though so I lucked out.

  • QuoteMan

    Well, you may think this is “narrow thinkin” on my part, and that may well be the case. But imma tell you this though, as much as I try to keep an open mind on practically everything, never will I compromise myself for the sake of being open minded. And it beats me how any straight dude would go that route. If this is “narrow thinkin” in the eyes of some, so be it, no shame here.

  • Wmofyr

    Well, he's an ex for a reason. The relationship sounded one dimensional. Maybe that gave you a disconnected feeling in the end. I think women definitely notice when the emotional connection is not tight enough, even if she does not realize that to be the problem..

    And the money would be another reason for the two of you to argue. Your life is better now, enjoy it. And yes he sounds as if he can go the gay route. I'm surprised he didn't freaked out crazy when you inserted the toy.

  • http://spinsterscompass.wordpress.com Spinster

    This story stinks of bad decisions, assclownery, and lubricant. Cut all contact with the man, don't give him a damn penny, and begin healing/moving on.

  • Dom

    LMFAO @ Sminster.

    Assclownery.

    I'd never ever lend my boyfriend $, so if/when he became an ex he sure hell isn't getting no $

    Move on girl. And stop looking for ways to ease back in his life and good graces.